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Originally Posted by Addicted2Boost
So, cars like the GTR came out, cheap and reliable performance out of japan, and with technology it really did re-write the books of what was previously thought not possible, going away from ur tradtional receipie for a supercar to attain performance. With great results. Like u mentioned, yes it did prove itself the last 60 years, but in modern times, that line is becomming ever closer for road going cars. And engine layout isnt the biggest point to how a road car performs like u are saying...
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It is like talking to copy of Max Power here...
Performance gap between a fast supercars and a fast GTs has not changed over the years. The best supercars have always been faster on high speed bends than the fastest production GTs. The best supercars have always been more manueverable than the fastest production GTs. Your whole argument is on life support fed by one or two aspects of performance - which frankly a 1960 muscle car can be "tuned" to beat a supercar at aswell.
We can all agree that cars are faster than ever before regardless of class, thanks to improved tyres, more powerful engines, a growing appreciation towards aerodynamics, and clever driver aids for those who arent Keichi Tsuchiya.
I have already pointed out how you fail to read posts and your impediment towards digesting information that requires a little brain effort to understand, so I will spell it out for you one more time.
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1) YOU CANNOT CHANGE THE LAWS OF PHYSICS - EVEN NISSAN TELL YOU THIS.
IF YOU WANT WANT LOWEST MOMENT OF INERTIA, THE FASTEST TRANSIENT RESPONSE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT ROAD OR TRACK, OR WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE IN, YOU WANT LOW WEIGHT, AND THE MASS PACKAGED BETWEEN THE FRONT AND REAR AXLES.
THE MOST TRIED AND TRUSTED WAY TO DO THIS IS VIA MID-ENGINED LAYOUT. EVEN NISSAN, HONDA AND TOYOTA DO THIS WITH THEIR FASTEST RACE CARS FFS.
ALL THE FASTEST SUPERCARS AND THE FASTEST RACE CARS EVEN IN 2008 ADOPT THIS PRATICE
2) YOU CANNOT CHANGE THE LAWS OF PHYSICS - EVEN NISSAN WILL TELL YOU THIS.
IF YOU WANT MAXIMUM HIGH SPEED PERFORMANCE, SO YOU CAN GO FASTER AND BRAKE LATER DURING AND AFTER HIGH SPEED TURNS, YOU WANT THE CHASSIS TO REMAIN STABLE AND TO MAXIMUSE THE LOAD THE TYRES.
THE TRIED AND TRUSTED WAY TO DO THIS IS A CHASSIS WITH LOW DRAG, HIGH DOWNFORCE AND TIGHT CONTROL OF THE CENTRE OF PRESSURE. EVEN NISSAN, HONDA AND TOYOTA DO THIS WITH THEIR FASTEST RACE CARS FFS
ALL THE FASTEST SUPERCARS AND RACE CARS EVEN IN 2008 ADOPT THIS PRACTICE.
3) YOU CANNOT CHANGE THE LAWS OF PHYSICS - EVEN NISSAN FOR THE 3RD TIME WILL TELL YOU THIS.
IF YOU WANT MAXIMUM GRIP FROM YOUR TYRES, YOU WILL WANT TO MAXIMISE LOAD ON ALL 4 TYRES, WITH MINIMAL GEOMETRY CHANGE AND BODY ROLL WITHOUT IMPACTING WHEEL TRAVEL.
THE TRIED AND TRUSTED WAY TO DO THIS IS TO HAVE THE LOWEST POSSIBLE CENTRE OF GRAVITY, DISTRIBUTE THE MASS EVENLY, AND MAXIMISE THE TRACK WIDTH AND MINIMISE THE WEIGHT OF THE CAR. EVEN NISSAN, HONDA AND TOYOTA DO THIS WITH THEIR FASTEST RACE CARS FFS
ALL THE FASTEST SUPERCARS AND THE FASTEST RACE CARS EVEN IN 2008 ADOPT THIS PRATICE
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You see, I dont like having to shout at forum members as I much rather discuss cars amicably with other human beings, but I can see people like yourself live their lives through bright sights, loud sounds and strong smells, you live with the ethos that the louder you say something, the truer it must be. Unfortunately I dont have big pictures and videos that can borrow some of your limited attention, nor can I condense a complicated subject into simple terms so you can digest them in the slim chance that you might understand why manufacturers still build cars they way they build them.
I can see from the past several posts you have one agenda, and that is for you to hold on to your perfectly comfortable equilibrium of not needing to learn any more information from cars/engineering or life other than the instinct to just breathe.
