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Originally Posted by gtrlux
Oh dear, now I am sucked in too . . .lol 
But anyway I won't reply to every thing Sidious has posted as I not have time for that.
When I say real world, it means indeed real world. There is no way you can go more then 200kph on any highway world wide without bringing you and other drivers in to danger. The real highways are no race track and you just need a stone, a piece of metal or some slippery surface and you are gone at 250kph! (of course in germany you can partially drive 400kph . .nice for them) |
Who says you can dictate what speed is "real world" and what isnt? What are you going to do?? Ignoring the dangers of street raceing, are you going to tell the supercar driver he is not allowed to go faster than the speed you are willing to go? You going to avoid corners where you know a supercar will excel on?
What kind of comparison is this? Just straightline wangan racing? You should have made a more appropriate thread title such as: "What will it take to beat an Enzo in a straight line" - easy, 750 BHP should be about enough.
Downforce can come into play at 60 MPH aswell as 160 MPH, if a low downforce car (like a GTR) is running wide through a sharp bend at 70 MPH on the ragged edge of its grip levels, a car with higher downforce car can go through it at 72-75 MPH quite easily.
If one car with similar power produces same downforce as the other, but has much less drag, the car with the lower drag will overtake the other car at higher speeds.
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This thread is not about some super car fan boys wanting to give their poor ricers the same performance skills as a so great ENZO . . .but merly passionated budget GT car maniacs, knowing that it is possible to transform every tuning investement in to earth shaking performance gains, the reason why there is such an excitement about japanese performance cars.
Top Gear showed it clear what you can do with an FQ Evo VS. that Lambo! Now just consider for one seconde what a 150k tuned EVO would do to that Lambo on the real world streets (for exemple behind my house in the mountain roads of GIFU) and not on TopGear well arranged track?
The Enzo can still do somethings more then that virtual 150k EVO(because it's build to do them), now what I want to know is, what it would take to make my GTR or EVO do the same things for under the ENZOs exorbitant budget (for 1.000.000$ don't you think I would not come up with a GTR chassis made 100% or carbon as well?)
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You already admit that you didnt read my previous post, $1000000 usd is not enough to develop a complete GTR to match or exceed an Enzo in *ALL* aspects of performance. Now you mention carbon bodies, that only adds to the costs. Please read my previous post, professional racing consultants are not cheap to hire, nor is track rental, nor are racing drivers who can give you feed back on how the car behaves at different situations.
Really, you and addicted2boost are quite gullible to belive the things you see on TV. Top gear videos are mainly for entertainment, it doesnt prove anything other than show how good the 4WD system on the Evolution is supposed to be for the average driver, they didnt race full bore on a track to show how fast the 2 cars are ultimately on that day. The Murcielago laps that track at 1:23.7, FQ400 did it in 1:24.8 - and this is a "factory tuned" Evolution. How about an LP640, Lamborghini's "factory tuned" model? 1:19.8?
This is my last post on the matter, the reality is: (when you, kismet and addicted to boost all switch off your computers, stand up and walk out the house) ...is this,
- You dont have the budget or the resources to develop a complete car to match a top level supercar.
- You dont have the knowledge to build and develop a complete car to match a top level supercar.
- You dont have the skill and the experience to drive a car to explore its limits on a variety of conditions to know whether or not it can match a top level supercar.
LOL, if you did, what are you people doing here? Why not work for Nissan and develop their GTR JGTC race car if you think you know better than every other car builder out there?!
