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Depends what you're doing. If I was commuting in traffic I wouldn't. Likewise if the roads weren't up to it (speed bumps and the like).
I don't like riding my bike in urban areas as it just doesn't work properly there. It's designed for the open road. The same is true of a Lambo or whatever. To me being sat in traffic everyday in a Lambo would be a complete waste of the car. For that sort of journey I'd be buying a Maser Quattroporte or the new Aston thing (or even DB9 as has been mentioned). |
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If I did have the means, I'd have more than one car, so I wouldn't.
Does driving the car every day add or detract from the experience of the ownership. I tend to take the gtr out of the garage on Friday and put it away on Sunday night. I've driven every day this week and its a fantastic car, really it is. But I hate other drivers and I hate filling with Optimax and not getting much change out of £60 so its mean and roofless in the Mazda next week.
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switch like clutches, cars that are nearly 2 meters wide, engines that are either too laggy or too responsive, very stiff ride and a large engine churning behind you will take its toll .
its just people who never driven supercars (no, a stage 1 GTR on coilovers is not a supercar) speculate that they can drive it everyday, where as real supercar owners who can afford the fuel still only drive it on occasions. |
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The market for such cars are for people who have money, not necessarily hard-core racers. Consequently, car companies like Ferrari have had to introduce features such as drivability and reliability into their cars to meet market demands. And they have done so. My last "supercar" drive was in a fellow's 612 Scaglietti - one he had ordered with a standard 6 speed tranny - a rarity in modern Ferraris. The clutch was a hell of a lot easier to modulate and push than my Nismo twinplate, I'll tell you that much. Although admittedly, the 612 is a "gentleman's car" (notwithstanding the Enzo engine up front!). Only a person who has little to no experience with supercars would speculate that others would "speculate" that a supercar could be driven daily. One of the three Bugatti Veyrons in Korea is in daily commuter service (a dentist drives that one). I'm pretty sure Bugatti designed it that way (provided the owner is willing to pay the fuel and upkeep) - the interior is POSH - it's an Aston Martin with an obscene engine in the boot. |
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Gallardo's are surprisingly good at being used for a daily driver compared to some of the higher end models and Ferraris ,Spoke to a guy that has one. Although I think they are designed to be a bit more robust for use on a regular basis ,2 or3 year old cars are getting nearly affordable if you are in the market price of say the new GTR .Gallardo looks like a true super car too ,maybe not the fastest in the World but a real head turner and always had pretty good reviews .
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+1 on that, and on the street at least the Gallardo is pretty much as quick as anything else out there, and the more compact dimensions make it less of a nightmare in traffic. I guess that Audi engineering is really helping to make Lamborghini make actual usable cars - remember the Countach?? Or I once drove an LM002 - the peeling paint and rust was worse than a 70's Fiat!
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McLaren never classed the SLR as a super car, it was a grand tourer, many so -called supercars are either entry level models or grand tourers themselves. Modern supercars would be on the lines of a Carerra GT, Enzo, Zonda - classic RWD, big displacement and revvy engine, reasonably light. Very faithful to the classic formulas used on the old F40/F50/McLarenF1/Diablo/Countach You have transitional "new money mobiles" examples such as the Murcielago and Veyron that mix elements of gran touring and classic supercars into one package. Incidently, they are AWD and very heavy. |
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Porsche 959 is certainly a supercar of it's time. The Veyron is the modern interpretation of it. I could also point out that the F40 had quite a small engine but that would be silly. I'd agree on the MacMerc though. The other are just more usable. Cars in general are more usable so why not supercars? |
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still doesn't change the fact that your opinions are narrowminded, bitter, misinformed, and reek of inexperience. Emphasis on inexperience. Are we to now split hairs on what is a supercar? I strongly suggest you get some test drives in some REAL cars, and then come back to us with your opinions.
I wouldn't have to talk so much if I weren't presented with such gross ignorance. |
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Whatever test drives you claim to have had behind a computer, none of them are bonafide supercars. The F355 is an entry level Ferrari, no where near the league of an F40 or F50 which are true supercars. CLK-DTM is a CLK coupe for racing homologation. It was never a supercar to begin with. Porsche have not built any supercars until they built the Carerra GT. The 959 is simply a fortified 911 as an engineering exercise and for their racing program in the early to mid 80's. The real issue is you dont know what a full on supercar is, you'd love to call all this "splitting hairs" because my last post exposed your lack of comprehension on the topic you started for the misinformation that it is. The FACT is, real supercar owners who can afford such supercars DO NOT drive real supercars everyday. You must be so deluded or "inexperienced" but most likely down right ignorant yourself to assume you are so different and special if you found to be in the situation to afford to drive one everyday. Seriously, stop talking to me. If you dont like being exposed for being a bit clueless on certain subjects then keep your big mouth shut from me. |
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