Repost - July 5 - Private Instructions with racer Sunako-san - Page 8 - GT-R Register - Official Nissan Skyline and GTR Owners Club forum

hyrev · 6th July 2008, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akasakaR33

PPS - I have video of Hyrev screaming when Sunako is driving my car. Any volunteers to host it for public consumption?

email it to me and I will host it!

Tom80 · 6th July 2008, 12:39 PM

It seems like I missed something great...Too bad I couldn't make it this time,　grrr.

akasakaR33 · 6th July 2008, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyrev

email it to me and I will host it!

What? and delete your screams?

Here is a crappy YouTube upload - if anyone knows how to improve the video quality - please PM me.

YouTube - Sports Land Yamanashi - with Sunako-san

Also - our friend Tom has video of him driving his yellow car, following Dai-chan (delivering tofu), getting passed by Sunako driving my car (at the 8min mark), then coming up behind Miguel (at the 9 min mark).

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Everyone, thanks for your kind comments. Miguel, Russ, Nick, Paul, James - good to know that it was a worthwhile experience - I hope we all learn and improve our skills. Miguel, I think you are mistaking my bravado at the first corner (copying Sunako) for actual driving skills, but thanks anyway.

Looking forward to more photos or even a new post, as Paul hinted at!

See you guys on Wed!

Aki

PS - for those you who can read Japanese - check out Sunako's bulletin board - his staff put up that one picture of us already -
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akasakaR33 · 6th July 2008, 04:33 PM

good thing we can't make out our faces... hopefully if this is submitted to GT-R magazine they keep the faces blurry!

Fuggles · 6th July 2008, 04:37 PM

Aki, Can you send good quality pictures and provide a write up for the magazine please?

Vihis · 6th July 2008, 05:19 PM

Gomennasai, I got home late today as well and moving to a different location in the Tokyo area tomorrow, so again had no real time to do anything with pictures.. so here's another picture that looked like a keeper

Paul: no worries, we chatted quite a bit in my opinion

ps: thank you for the TV mode explanation, it was fun experimenting with that mode and I hope that you get to enjoy the results.

Miguel: Thank you, I would be definitely interested in that

.

-Vihis

hyrev · 6th July 2008, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akasakaR33

Looking forward to more photos or even a new post, as Paul hinted at!

See you guys on Wed!

Aki
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It is in the member's gallery, I should have put the link here.
So, for any future pics or vids, please post them there. I have
updated it with your post Aki.

new thread

akasakaR33 · 7th July 2008, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuggles

Aki, Can you send good quality pictures and provide a write up for the magazine please?

John - unfortunately I was too busy running around to take any photos. Perhaps some of the other members will have some photos. But will be happy to do an article, though. Give me a few days.

Aki

akasakaR33 · 7th July 2008, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyrev

It is in the member's gallery, I should have put the link here.
So, for any future pics or vids, please post them there. I have
updated it with your post Aki.

new thread

Paul - thanks! Some really nice pics! I may have to "borrow" some for my blog...

Aki

REXtreme · 7th July 2008, 12:57 AM

Again an awesome day.

I am still processing the things I experienced from this as I watch the videos.

It's good to see the different reactions.

The difference in Toms roadster and mine with no tyre traction is vast.
I had wheel spin 80% of the time in first but Tom's seems to get much more traction. Even though Sunako hept mine going forward, it was a vastly different audible experience. The scream of tyre and rev limiter.

Some nice pics Paul. Pity we were in the same group I don't have any pics of your 34.

Russ.

Thrust · 7th July 2008, 02:36 PM

Gotta love the guy's final comment...
塾生からの要望や希望等が無ければ、
今回のレッスンが東京校最後の開催となりますが、
要望や希望等があれば次回があるかも・・・・・

"If there are no requests from his students, then this will have been the last time a Tokyo School Event was held,
but if there should be any such requests, there could even be a next time..........."

akasakaR33 · 7th July 2008, 03:45 PM

In other words, BACK by POPULAR demand. Yeah, Sunako mentioned this too at the end of the debrief at the end of the day. I was in a state of disbelief, Sunako had been going around telling that this was going to be his absolute LAST class, and that he wasn't going to do this anymore.

I think he (Sunako) was not thinking it was going to go this well. Thanks to everyone, I heard from the staff that they were really happy with how it turned out, that everyone was mature, respectful and great guys, and that the staff felt bad because they didn't have enough people on hand to help out!

So it's a credit to everyone who participated - thanks guys! And Piers, is this your way of trying to get me to set up another track day with him later in the year? One you might attend?

Aki

Thrust · 7th July 2008, 11:37 PM

LOL @ Aki. Don't jump the gun, just yet, but nothing's impossible...would love to be able to join.

Miguel - Newera · 8th July 2008, 06:33 AM

Hey guys, this is a VERY interesting video which Tom has kindly pointed us in the direction of. You can really see how this 996 driver at Fuji (Looks like a full race car with sequential box, etc) used trial braking and most importantly how gently he lets off the brakes as he reaches the clipping point he's able to gently apply throttle and start accelerating out again. I've been watching this clip over and over again at how the braking varies according to steering input....
I think this sort of trial braking is what Sunako San was really trying to teach us the importance of at Yamanashi.

In other words hard braking, finish the gearchanges just before the corner, stay on the brakes gradually easing off whilst applying steering lock and easing off more as the car slows down and reaches the clipping point. That graph he drew for us of braking force against steering angle was also important I think.. Once past the clipping point start accelerating out again..

Also, this 2 lap video clip loosely shows the braking points and correct race lines around Fuji circuit.

Seeing this video clip makes me want to go out and practice, practice, practice

YouTube - Porche 996 On Board Camera. (FUJI Speed Way)

Kanzen · 8th July 2008, 09:41 AM

That's an awesome video, although it's hard to concentrate on the footwork and not get lost in the glorious noise of that engine !

6th July 2008, 04:33 PM	#109 (permalink)
akasakaR33 GTROC Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tokyo Posts: 815	From Sunako's website good thing we can't make out our faces... hopefully if this is submitted to GT-R magazine they keep the faces blurry! __________________ http://akasakabcnr33.livejournal.com/

6th July 2008, 04:37 PM	#110 (permalink)
Fuggles GTROC Chairman Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: UK Posts: 16,624	Aki, Can you send good quality pictures and provide a write up for the magazine please? __________________ . GTROC chairman Please feel free to contact me with any GTROC questions send an email to info@gtr.co.uk or send a PM

7th July 2008, 02:36 PM	#116 (permalink)
Thrust GTROC Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Japan Posts: 3,134	Gotta love the guy's final comment... 塾生からの要望や希望等が無ければ、今回のレッスンが東京校最後の開催となりますが、要望や希望等があれば次回があるかも・・・・・ "If there are no requests from his students, then this will have been the last time a Tokyo School Event was held, but if there should be any such requests, there could even be a next time..........." __________________ All play and no work makes Jack a right berk. Spider Godwin Action Group for the Ban against Skirts to be Lifted

7th July 2008, 03:45 PM	#117 (permalink)
akasakaR33 GTROC Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tokyo Posts: 815	In other words, BACK by POPULAR demand. Yeah, Sunako mentioned this too at the end of the debrief at the end of the day. I was in a state of disbelief, Sunako had been going around telling that this was going to be his absolute LAST class, and that he wasn't going to do this anymore. I think he (Sunako) was not thinking it was going to go this well. Thanks to everyone, I heard from the staff that they were really happy with how it turned out, that everyone was mature, respectful and great guys, and that the staff felt bad because they didn't have enough people on hand to help out! So it's a credit to everyone who participated - thanks guys! And Piers, is this your way of trying to get me to set up another track day with him later in the year? One you might attend? Aki __________________ http://akasakabcnr33.livejournal.com/

7th July 2008, 11:37 PM	#118 (permalink)
Thrust GTROC Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Japan Posts: 3,134	LOL @ Aki. Don't jump the gun, just yet, but nothing's impossible...would love to be able to join. __________________ All play and no work makes Jack a right berk. Spider Godwin Action Group for the Ban against Skirts to be Lifted

6th July 2008, 12:39 PM	#107 (permalink)
Tom80 GTR Register Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 180	It seems like I missed something great...Too bad I couldn't make it this time,　grrr.

6th July 2008, 05:19 PM	#111 (permalink)
Vihis GTR Register Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 129	Gomennasai, I got home late today as well and moving to a different location in the Tokyo area tomorrow, so again had no real time to do anything with pictures.. so here's another picture that looked like a keeper Paul: no worries, we chatted quite a bit in my opinion ps: thank you for the TV mode explanation, it was fun experimenting with that mode and I hope that you get to enjoy the results. Miguel: Thank you, I would be definitely interested in that . -Vihis

7th July 2008, 12:57 AM	#115 (permalink)
REXtreme GTR Register Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Japan Posts: 283	Again an awesome day. I am still processing the things I experienced from this as I watch the videos. It's good to see the different reactions. The difference in Toms roadster and mine with no tyre traction is vast. I had wheel spin 80% of the time in first but Tom's seems to get much more traction. Even though Sunako hept mine going forward, it was a vastly different audible experience. The scream of tyre and rev limiter. Some nice pics Paul. Pity we were in the same group I don't have any pics of your 34. Russ.

8th July 2008, 06:33 AM	#119 (permalink)
Miguel - Newera GTR Register Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan. Posts: 616	Hey guys, this is a VERY interesting video which Tom has kindly pointed us in the direction of. You can really see how this 996 driver at Fuji (Looks like a full race car with sequential box, etc) used trial braking and most importantly how gently he lets off the brakes as he reaches the clipping point he's able to gently apply throttle and start accelerating out again. I've been watching this clip over and over again at how the braking varies according to steering input.... I think this sort of trial braking is what Sunako San was really trying to teach us the importance of at Yamanashi. In other words hard braking, finish the gearchanges just before the corner, stay on the brakes gradually easing off whilst applying steering lock and easing off more as the car slows down and reaches the clipping point. That graph he drew for us of braking force against steering angle was also important I think.. Once past the clipping point start accelerating out again.. Also, this 2 lap video clip loosely shows the braking points and correct race lines around Fuji circuit. Seeing this video clip makes me want to go out and practice, practice, practice YouTube - Porche 996 On Board Camera. (FUJI Speed Way)

8th July 2008, 09:41 AM	#120 (permalink)
Kanzen GTR Register Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England/Japan Posts: 665	That's an awesome video, although it's hard to concentrate on the footwork and not get lost in the glorious noise of that engine ! __________________ Official Distributors for MINE'S www.kanzenperformance.com Closing Down Sale - Discounted Mine's Parts http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/103000-cl...nes-parts.html BNR34 S-Tune's for Sale: http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/103001-bn...mo-s-tune.html

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