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Kristan · 2nd July 2008, 01:13 PM

cryo is basically they deep freeze the parts down to -200 or something for 24 hours. Apparently works very well for gti-r gearboxes and brake discs in general. This was the company :

Motorsport

Was thinking of getting a knackered box and trying it myself. Pretty certain 5th is on it's way out in mine and it won't be long before 3rd lets go I'm sure.

Madden · 3rd July 2008, 05:47 PM

Well just got back from building my gearbox at Abbey motorsport with the big man Tony. I have been down there all day annoying them and have learnt alot. I think the gearset rebuild into the OS giken center plate took about 3 hours. Not bad for an old boy. :lol: Had a good day there and Mark said that he can help me map the car by having 2 maps. One for out and out drag racing and one for street.

A few pics

Looks stunning i think

The old broken 3rd gear and layshaft

And for those that wanted to compare the stock plate to a OS plate.

Like to thank Tony @ Abbey again for all the help.

Cliff J · 3rd July 2008, 05:53 PM

Nice one Jamie son

Did you help or just make tea and wise cracks?

...and did you get my bit from Mick?

Madden · 3rd July 2008, 05:57 PM

Yes i have some how ended up with a free r33 release bearing and you credit card numbers

Cliff J · 3rd July 2008, 07:14 PM

That`s all good then

Cheers Madge

Madden · 11th July 2008, 04:47 PM

Another update.

I spent all day yesturday on the bike so i thought i should build the box up again.

I have been holding off due to the fact that i had it pretty much built but i recieved a message from Tony at Abbey saying they found one of my thrust bearings in the bottom of their parts washer.

ops: :lol:. So it all had to come apart again to put this bloody bearing in. Which involved removing all the sealent that hasn't set yet. Ended up in a big mess. :lol: :lol: So it took me about 2 hours to strip, clean and put this bearing in. I replaced that washer that was missng due to the layshaft being shorter then the old one. Built the rest of the gearbox up with the transfer on it but i was reading the workshop manual and there is a spring and ball bearing missing from the gear selector gate. I dont remember removing it or dropping it. :lol: It looks like it has been removed before due to the bolt that came out having orange sealent around it. So I'm guessing it has been mising since i installed this box a while ago. Who knows? So waiting for the replacement to turn up before i can install the box back into the car. :x :x :x . I wanted to put the box back in tomorrow but that wont be happening now. :x :x :x :x :x :x

A few pics.

The thing now weighs a ton again and i had to l lift it into the shed. Which bloody hurt. :lol: :lol:

paul cawson · 11th July 2008, 05:04 PM

Looks good,were you luck enough to have the late type syncros in your R33 gearbox already.

Madden · 11th July 2008, 05:09 PM

No i was has the early type mate but the box came out of an 1998 v-spec r33? Hey ho see how long they last

paul cawson · 11th July 2008, 05:12 PM

Could be the only modification the gearbox needs? if so I will fit one in mine.
As you say that OS gear set is a lot of money esp if it goes wrong again.

Madden · 11th July 2008, 05:19 PM

Will will see what happens at the next track day or pro/street drag event.

All in all the box rebuild with new gears and center plate has cost me. £600 including oils. It would be in the £3000 mark if i went for the OS gearset and it i broke third gear on that it will cost me in excess of £1000 to fix where the stock gears will only cost around £100 to rebuild again.

paul cawson · 11th July 2008, 05:50 PM

If it does go you can try fitting the front plate as well, but I think only Kakimoto does those

95GTR600 · 16th July 2008, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madden

Will will see what happens at the next track day or pro/street drag event.

All in all the box rebuild with new gears and center plate has cost me. £600 including oils. It would be in the £3000 mark if i went for the OS gearset and it i broke third gear on that it will cost me in excess of £1000 to fix where the stock gears will only cost around £100 to rebuild again.

where did you buy the standard gears ?

Piggaz · 17th July 2008, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul cawson

If it does go you can try fitting the front plate as well, but I think only Kakimoto does those

Front plate???
Where do i get me one of these!!!!??

Smokey 1 · 17th July 2008, 11:22 AM

Sort it out Madden, your not trying hard enough

5th gear from my Type-R, managed to crack the front plate lose all oil and contaminate the clutch.

Looks like you should be back on the road shortly mate, good stuff

Smokey

SteveN · 17th July 2008, 08:47 PM

Good work mate, ill be interested if the uprated OSG plate helps, as my box is on its way out bigtime and cant afford a expensive gearset at mo...

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2nd July 2008, 01:13 PM	#31 (permalink)
Kristan GTROC Member 666 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Isle of Man Posts: 165	cryo is basically they deep freeze the parts down to -200 or something for 24 hours. Apparently works very well for gti-r gearboxes and brake discs in general. This was the company : Motorsport Was thinking of getting a knackered box and trying it myself. Pretty certain 5th is on it's way out in mine and it won't be long before 3rd lets go I'm sure.

3rd July 2008, 05:47 PM	#32 (permalink)
Madden New Users Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2,078	Well just got back from building my gearbox at Abbey motorsport with the big man Tony. I have been down there all day annoying them and have learnt alot. I think the gearset rebuild into the OS giken center plate took about 3 hours. Not bad for an old boy. :lol: Had a good day there and Mark said that he can help me map the car by having 2 maps. One for out and out drag racing and one for street. A few pics Looks stunning i think The old broken 3rd gear and layshaft And for those that wanted to compare the stock plate to a OS plate. Like to thank Tony @ Abbey again for all the help.

3rd July 2008, 05:57 PM	#34 (permalink)
Madden New Users Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2,078	Yes i have some how ended up with a free r33 release bearing and you credit card numbers

11th July 2008, 04:47 PM	#36 (permalink)
Madden New Users Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2,078	Another update. I spent all day yesturday on the bike so i thought i should build the box up again. I have been holding off due to the fact that i had it pretty much built but i recieved a message from Tony at Abbey saying they found one of my thrust bearings in the bottom of their parts washer. ops: :lol:. So it all had to come apart again to put this bloody bearing in. Which involved removing all the sealent that hasn't set yet. Ended up in a big mess. :lol: :lol: So it took me about 2 hours to strip, clean and put this bearing in. I replaced that washer that was missng due to the layshaft being shorter then the old one. Built the rest of the gearbox up with the transfer on it but i was reading the workshop manual and there is a spring and ball bearing missing from the gear selector gate. I dont remember removing it or dropping it. :lol: It looks like it has been removed before due to the bolt that came out having orange sealent around it. So I'm guessing it has been mising since i installed this box a while ago. Who knows? So waiting for the replacement to turn up before i can install the box back into the car. :x :x :x . I wanted to put the box back in tomorrow but that wont be happening now. :x :x :x :x :x :x A few pics. The thing now weighs a ton again and i had to l lift it into the shed. Which bloody hurt. :lol: :lol:

11th July 2008, 05:04 PM	#37 (permalink)
paul cawson New Users Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Essex Posts: 2,069	Looks good,were you luck enough to have the late type syncros in your R33 gearbox already.

11th July 2008, 05:09 PM	#38 (permalink)
Madden New Users Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2,078	No i was has the early type mate but the box came out of an 1998 v-spec r33? Hey ho see how long they last

11th July 2008, 05:12 PM	#39 (permalink)
paul cawson New Users Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Essex Posts: 2,069	Could be the only modification the gearbox needs? if so I will fit one in mine. As you say that OS gear set is a lot of money esp if it goes wrong again.

11th July 2008, 05:19 PM	#40 (permalink)
Madden New Users Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2,078	Will will see what happens at the next track day or pro/street drag event. All in all the box rebuild with new gears and center plate has cost me. £600 including oils. It would be in the £3000 mark if i went for the OS gearset and it i broke third gear on that it will cost me in excess of £1000 to fix where the stock gears will only cost around £100 to rebuild again.

11th July 2008, 05:50 PM	#41 (permalink)
paul cawson New Users Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Essex Posts: 2,069	If it does go you can try fitting the front plate as well, but I think only Kakimoto does those

17th July 2008, 08:47 PM	#45 (permalink)
SteveN GTR Register Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Just off the M5/A40 Posts: 7,171	Good work mate, ill be interested if the uprated OSG plate helps, as my box is on its way out bigtime and cant afford a expensive gearset at mo...