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Old 26th June 2008, 03:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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A little bit confussed here - VDC whats that stand for?

If switching it off voids warranty issues - then I would imagine fitting a Mines ECU and exhaust will do the same.

I'm going for ECU remap (yet to decide who) new exhaust and high flow cats and a water injection system - that should throw it the warrenty straight out of the window - so using launch cotrol is irrelevant.

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Old 26th June 2008, 03:32 PM   #17 (permalink)
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OK VDC is a traction control embeded in the ECU - Sorry new to Nissan lingo....

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Old 26th June 2008, 03:38 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I'm sorry but if taking the traction control off - voids warranty then Nissan might have a fight on there hands, as if it can damage the car it shouldn't have a button, and if only to be used in mud or on snow then it should switch back on automaticly after a certain speed.

Any way I'll be using the lauch control - not every day at the lights - but for fun and the guys will all want to see it down at the track - it's not gonna look good on Nissan if you say your not allowed to use it...

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Old 26th June 2008, 07:02 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I'm sorry but if taking the traction control off - voids warranty then Nissan might have a fight on there hands, as if it can damage the car it shouldn't have a button, and if only to be used in mud or on snow then it should switch back on automaticly after a certain speed.

Any way I'll be using the lauch control - not every day at the lights - but for fun and the guys will all want to see it down at the track - it's not gonna look good on Nissan if you say your not allowed to use it...

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Old 26th June 2008, 08:00 PM   #20 (permalink)
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BMW have done the same for ages in the the M3 (E46) it has launch control but if you murder the clutch or tranny they check the ECU for how many starts you have done and if they thing you are taking the piss 3 or 5 + then they bill you for the repair.

Ferrari do the same for their launch systems but I can't see Nissan UK voiding the warranty for driving with the TC off and if they do I am gonna cancel my order as that will be shit for track days - I want to drive computer free on a track and test my ability not the cars.

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Old 26th June 2008, 09:06 PM   #21 (permalink)
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BMW have done the same for ages in the the M3 (E46) it has launch control but if you murder the clutch or tranny they check the ECU for how many starts you have done and if they thing you are taking the piss 3 or 5 + then they bill you for the repair.

Ferrari do the same for their launch systems but I can't see Nissan UK voiding the warranty for driving with the TC off and if they do I am gonna cancel my order as that will be shit for track days - I want to drive computer free on a track and test my ability not the cars.

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I'll cancel as well...
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Old 26th June 2008, 10:58 PM   #22 (permalink)
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why doesn't the original poster post the warranty page info regarding the VDC. we're all just guessing otherwise.
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Old 27th June 2008, 12:08 PM   #23 (permalink)
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As posted earlier,

You lot wanna get out more and learn about cars a bit !!!

BMW, Ferrari and others have stated that their modern launch systems are for very seldom use and as such repeated launches will almost certainly break something and hence void the warranty because they know this would happen. Its a bit like a page in a handbook for a gun that says dont point at yourself and pull trigger - its kinda obvious when you stop and think about it !!

As for "black box" data recording then thats been around for eons as well. The police have been known to check in cases of severe road accidents to see if speed etc was a major factor. If you guys dont like it then cancel your order and go buy an old 1980's DeLorean or something that makes you feel "tech" without diluting a knowlegeable club. Or an Ariel Atom if you're truly interested in going round track fast with no traction control - you'll get more out of it !!!

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Old 27th June 2008, 12:14 PM   #24 (permalink)
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AsOr an Ariel Atom if you're truly interested in going round track fast with no traction control - you'll get more out of it !!!

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Funny you shold say that - I saw the Atom on an old Top Gear, and thought, buy one second hand for abot 20k and have 30k in my pocket...

Wanna buy my GT-R - £15k and you can have my place....
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Old 27th June 2008, 12:17 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Yeah !!

Trouble is I watched the same old Top Gear as you did and thought "WOW !! I didnt realise they were that cheap, maybe worth having a look" except that Ariel have obviously been swamped by demand and just simply upped the price to take advantage as they are more like 40k rather than 20k !!!

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Old 27th June 2008, 12:19 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Serously though - I think you have missed the point - it's like saying don't corner at high speeds because it puts too much stress on the suspension and it might break - and that not covered...

If it ain't reliable don't fit it - simple - the car doesn't NEED launch contol - so why fit it??? But if you do fit it then the damn thing SHOULD work every time - OK so there is an issue of general wear and tear, but it should work..
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Old 27th June 2008, 12:21 PM   #27 (permalink)
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they are more like 40k rather than 20k !!!

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damn there goes a perfectly good plan....
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Old 27th June 2008, 12:25 PM   #28 (permalink)
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My turbo's blew on my Audi whilst under warranty - Audi said you have been on a track and it's therefore not covered - after a long chat they agreed I could put as much if not more pressure on the car driving down the A46 than around Donnington (Donnington max speed 145mph - A46 195mph) and decoded to honour the warranty.

It seems that at least Nissan are happy for the car to be used on the track - 1 up to them..

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Old 27th June 2008, 02:42 PM   #29 (permalink)
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The very fact that this is written in the manual shows that lack of thought behind this. Is this car fragile? I guess only time will tell.
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Old 27th June 2008, 03:09 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I have a feeling it's just covering there backs - I'm sure it will be just fine - as long as you don't use it every time you leave the lights for 3 years - don't forget they give a full 3 year warranty - thats a lot of time and miles for something to go wrong..

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