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Old 29th June 2008, 03:00 PM   #46 (permalink)
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When we bought ours we had been told no more that around 10 launches before it would go belly up, so i never used it
I'm talking mode 6 or S6 not the launch control.
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Old 29th June 2008, 04:04 PM   #47 (permalink)
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yeah I had a White M3 SMG and it had the flappy paddle box - it never missed a beat. I always drove it in S6 and never backed of the throttle on gear changes. They are pretty bomb proof but there is still a limit on launches before they walk away feom the warranty. Can anyone confirm that VDC is traction control and not just the launch control system.

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Old 29th June 2008, 06:02 PM   #48 (permalink)
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am back at work in the morning so will see if I can clear this up for you guys, but am not entirely sure if warranty exceptions etc for UK cars have even been set yet (if any different to others?)
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Old 30th June 2008, 12:24 PM   #49 (permalink)
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yeah I had a White M3 SMG and it had the flappy paddle box - it never missed a beat. I always drove it in S6 and never backed of the throttle on gear changes. They are pretty bomb proof but there is still a limit on launches before they walk away feom the warranty. Can anyone confirm that VDC is traction control and not just the launch control system.

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I've read the U.S. manual that someone kindly posted on this forum and yes it does mean traction control, which it says should only be turned off for getting the car out of situations where it is stuck in mud or snow. Also I was a little concerned to see that it says that if you need to change the tyres on one axle you should change all four at the same time...a little disconcerting at possibly up to £500 per tyre and it also says even more alarmingly that if you have to change brake pads you have to change all four pads and discs! Even TVR who were not known to be economical for their servicing costs used to offer to "reskim" discs if that would avoid having to replace them in order to save the customer money but unless I'm missing something getting us to change all four discs every time the pads get worn really does take the biscuit away!
I don't want to indulge in scaremongering and I should point out that:
1. This is the U.S. manual not the U.K. one.
2. Since the basis of warranty waiving is that "disobeying" the manufacturer's recommendations can only void the warranty for a fault with the product that arises due to this action it would seem difficult to enforce this edict (re brakes and tyres) even if it does appear in the U.K manual.
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Old 30th June 2008, 12:36 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Also I was a little concerned to see that it says that if you need to change the tyres on one axle you should change all four at the same time....
This is fairly standard I believe on 4 wheel drive cars - and is standard on a Audi Quattro, however it depends on how they have worn and why it needs replacing as rule of thumb is that they all wear out together.

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Old 30th June 2008, 12:40 PM   #51 (permalink)
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in japan you can change the pads without having to change the discs. that surely must be a misprint or bad translation in the US manual.
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Old 30th June 2008, 12:43 PM   #52 (permalink)
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regarding the tyre change issue.....Maybe it is the norm with 4 wheel drive cars I don't know but I've had an impreza turbo since new for 10 years and have never needed to change all four tyres at once but then I've never done track days and a significant proportion of the miles have been on motorways so perhaps you're right and it is to do with how the car is driven.
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in japan you can change the pads without having to change the discs. that surely must be a misprint or bad translation in the US manual.
pleased to hear that...thanks
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regarding the tyre change issue.....Maybe it is the norm with 4 wheel drive cars I don't know but I've had an impreza turbo since new for 10 years and have never needed to change all four tyres at once but then I've never done track days and a significant proportion of the miles have been on motorways so perhaps you're right and it is to do with how the car is driven.
Yes totally agree - but it is written into the Audi RS4 manual - which was nice when Audi curbed one of my wheels and had to replace one rim and all four tyres.

But saying that the RS4 does have an even spread on tyres with the 50/50 engine split - so if you fit them together they wear out together, on road or track.

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I've had 5 different impreza's, one evo and a 996 turbo and never had to change all 4 tyres at once, the reason being because it depends on how much power goes to both sets of wheels, my impreza's where 60front and 40 back so the fronts wore first, my porsche was 90rear 10 front so the backs wore first. not really that much to do with weight more on the spread of horse power!! so the gtr will def wear its rear rubber first.
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Old 1st July 2008, 10:29 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I spoke to nissan today and they said the US warranty will differ from the EU. They also said that the warranty comment was to cover them
"if you done something like a track day and blew the tranny" I asked if they could write a mail and I was told they were talking to the policy guys who wrote the warranty to get something from them.

I know a lot of car manfactutes state in the manual that racing or time trialing will void the warranty - I think they have just worded it badly. That said I still want clarification that is the case and that I can drive the car without TC and not void the warranty

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the car is a dog to handle without the VDC on btw. check out that video of the test driver seeing how easy it is to lose the back end... barely takes a little throttle on a bend and the back goes. it's a VERY heavy car....
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Quite possibly. I had the impression that the SMG boxes were quite strong. Have you ever had a drive of a CSL? Now that gear change is awesome.
YES YES YES!! I haves one and have really gotten to love it recently!! Selling it though!
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the car is a dog to handle without the VDC on btw. check out that video of the test driver seeing how easy it is to lose the back end... barely takes a little throttle on a bend and the back goes. it's a VERY heavy car....
i haven't seen this vid or are you talking about the one in your signature? can you send me a link please otherwise, thanks
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I've had 5 different impreza's, one evo and a 996 turbo and never had to change all 4 tyres at once, the reason being because it depends on how much power goes to both sets of wheels, my impreza's where 60front and 40 back so the fronts wore first, my porsche was 90rear 10 front so the backs wore first. not really that much to do with weight more on the spread of horse power!! so the gtr will def wear its rear rubber first.
Believe it or not but the tyres I have on my car need replacing again - yes all bloody four, due to delamination from the inside out....

Would post picture but don't know how...

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