VDC off voids the warranty..

[axolotl]

Originally Posted by Chamber

i haven't seen this vid or are you talking about the one in your signature? can you send me a link please otherwise, thanks

actually could you post a link to your video so we can all see it.
by the way i note that evo's john barker in the group test against the audi R8 on winding welsh roads left the gearbox in standard setting, left the vdc in standard setting (neither setting it to R nor switching it off) and actually had the suspension in comfort setting................he still seemed to be backing off the throttle to let the hard driven R8 keep up. I don't think I'm going to be turning vdc off very often...I suspect it would probably make me slower if I did and make me run the risk of not arriving at all!

[Chamber]

Originally Posted by axolotl

actually could you post a link to your video so we can all see it.
by the way i note that evo's john barker in the group test against the audi R8 on winding welsh roads left the gearbox in standard setting, left the vdc in standard setting (neither setting it to R nor switching it off) and actually had the suspension in comfort setting................he still seemed to be backing off the throttle to let the hard driven R8 keep up. I don't think I'm going to be turning vdc off very often...I suspect it would probably make me slower if I did and make me run the risk of not arriving at all!

lol yea i can understand what you mean lol where you get the review from? the magazine or an online article?

[axolotl]

It was in the April 2008 edition of evo........I hope he doesn't mind me quoting him but one paragraph is particularly telling:
"Flicking the stability control and drivetrain settings to 'Race' is unnecessary. This expands the opportunity to feel the rear slip under power but you don't need to push that hard to run away from the R8. In fact, you find yourself short-shifting or soft-pedalling the throttle to give the Audi a chance to catch up so you can see how hard it's trying. The game has moved on."

[Chamber]

Originally Posted by axolotl

It was in the April 2008 edition of evo........I hope he doesn't mind me quoting him but one paragraph is particularly telling:
"Flicking the stability control and drivetrain settings to 'Race' is unnecessary. This expands the opportunity to feel the rear slip under power but you don't need to push that hard to run away from the R8. In fact, you find yourself short-shifting or soft-pedalling the throttle to give the Audi a chance to catch up so you can see how hard it's trying. The game has moved on."

i don't know whether to cheer or grieve, i love the R8, i'm waiting for the V12 diesel or any news, it's a beast with its torque yet i agree with you, the game has moved on

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by Chamber

The game has moved on

The Game has definatly moved on in leaps and bounds - makes my car look ancient - but to the true driver, feeling and balancing the cars power / movements is still a thing of beauty.

Have the toys to help, and play with others, but be able to switch off when the terms permit.

Or should we just get in the car press a button for our destination and let the car drive us there without input??? It will come I'm sure.

R.

[GTR FREAK!]

Originally Posted by Chamber

i don't know whether to cheer or grieve, i love the R8, i'm waiting for the V12 diesel or any news, it's a beast with its torque yet i agree with you, the game has moved on

Im afraid you'll be waiting a while then as the R8 V12 Diesel has been cancelled by audi who have finally admitted what everyone else knew before them...it couldnt be done!! Apparently the chassis couldnt take the weight to give the performance and then they couldnt keep the thing cooled down.

GTR, THE CAR!!

[tokyogtr]

Originally Posted by axolotl

actually could you post a link to your video so we can all see it.
by the way i note that evo's john barker in the group test against the audi R8 on winding welsh roads left the gearbox in standard setting, left the vdc in standard setting (neither setting it to R nor switching it off) and actually had the suspension in comfort setting................he still seemed to be backing off the throttle to let the hard driven R8 keep up. I don't think I'm going to be turning vdc off very often...I suspect it would probably make me slower if I did and make me run the risk of not arriving at all!

here ya go...

For those who think that driving talent isn't required in a R35...

[Chamber]

Originally Posted by Chubby

The Game has definatly moved on in leaps and bounds - makes my car look ancient - but to the true driver, feeling and balancing the cars power / movements is still a thing of beauty.

Have the toys to help, and play with others, but be able to switch off when the terms permit.

Or should we just get in the car press a button for our destination and let the car drive us there without input??? It will come I'm sure.

R.

well said

Originally Posted by GTR FREAK!

Im afraid you'll be waiting a while then as the R8 V12 Diesel has been cancelled by audi who have finally admitted what everyone else knew before them...it couldnt be done!! Apparently the chassis couldnt take the weight to give the performance and then they couldnt keep the thing cooled down.

GTR, THE CAR!!

i'm not so sure about that based on this video but i am sure that it had it's fair share of problems but then again who has done a diesel supercar of this nature so aren't problems to be expected?? CLICK HERE

well i don't mind, it's not so much the fastest time to me but the way it makes you feel.... (want's spec-v )

[Chubby]

Video is great - would imagine he is on the wrong tyres or the pressures are wrong as he's sliding badly..

R.

[tokyogtr]

Originally Posted by Chubby

Video is great - would imagine he is on the wrong tyres or the pressures are wrong as he's sliding badly..

R.

afraid not. he's just turned off VDC and is testing the limits of the car for testing purposes.

the electronics really numb the real feel of the car. i drove mine on the same circuit with everything set to R and you really had no idea what the car would do. you can't feel it. you just have to trust the electronics.

[bladerider]

The video is obviously some form of test as stated.

The cornering speeds are pedestrian, the way he is driving is totally at odds to what you would want to do and as soemone mentioned he clearly has no real grip, most likely due to dissintegrated tyres.

So all in all its completely useless info. Might as well show a stripped out 1litre polo from Berg Cup with stupid tyres and say thats the ultimate corner speed car, or a F1 car with spacesavers on and say it is impossible to handle. Neither statement has any relation to the normal specs and performance of the car.

I would be perfectly happy to take an R34, 32 or 35 round a track with the traction on or off and play lift off oversteer and throttle balancing games - we could have a nice chat and glass of Merlot whilst I did it if ya like

J.

[Chubby]

There is a possibility that he's running his tyres flat - as they are run flats to see how the car handles...

Just a thought..

R.

[bladerider]

spot on !!

Would also explain how it is so jerky to get back like the steering is really sloooow !!

[kpkpkp]

So this is the mail contents I have back from Nissan


Please see our current policy detail regarding your VDC (ESP) issue below. Please note however, this is still work in progress.

Tuning:
Malfunctions caused by operation performed at workshop other than NHPC or mount of parts other than Nissan genuine will not be covered by warranty.

Driving condition:
Malfunctions caused by severe driving (eg. driving at circuit) will not be covered by warranty.
Verification of travel distance with Vehicle Status Data Recorder (VSDR) and history of parts replacement may be conducted.

Special driving condition:
Launch mode needs to be set VDC off. When the customer set VDC off, then warranty is not covered as described in the Owner Manual (OM).
Customer should be checked and maintained in NHPC before and after driving racetrack to follow special racing service intervals in OM.
System failure on the vehicle during race driving on a circuit is non-warrantable. System failure on the vehicle during city driving related to having driven the vehicle on a race circuit is non-warrantable.

NB: Specific warranty booklet will be supplied to all RBUs for translation and distribution to local network

My understanding is that essentially, any car driven on track is out of warranty until re-checked by a certified NHPC which effectively re-sets the warranty.

Effectively, any time VDC OFF is engaged, the car is out of warranty while VDC OFF is engaged.

Make of it what you will

Kp

[Chubby]

Sounds about right for a car Company - give you all the performace you need on a track and doesn't let you use it...

R.