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Old 9th July 2008, 12:01 AM   #76 (permalink)
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it's not that bad. they're giving you the performance and it's your call if you use it. but if you break it you pay for it. why should nissan pay for it?
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Old 9th July 2008, 07:03 AM   #77 (permalink)
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but if you break it you pay for it. why should nissan pay for it?

Why should it break??

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Old 9th July 2008, 08:24 AM   #78 (permalink)
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I agree that it is really little bit dissapointing that they say - when you turn VDC off, you don't have warranty!
I have never heared for such thing, Mercedes, Porsche and BMW don't do such things...
There is rev limiter, so you cannot overrev the negine!! WHy shoul you loose warranty when turning ESP/ASR off???
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Old 9th July 2008, 08:49 AM   #79 (permalink)
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the point is, if you are using the car on track just about any manufacturers warranty is void, all Nissan are asking is that after driving a car on track (or like your on a track) that you have a 'race' service to reinstate the warranty.

No other manufacturer warrants trackday abuse either!
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Old 9th July 2008, 09:41 AM   #80 (permalink)
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I am not complaining about the track using, I am complainig about cancelling the warranty if something goes wrong when the VDC is off!!!
I understood the post that way.
For example, if the transmission explodes with the VDC off - no warranty. That can happen in the city, not on the track.
This is nonsence for me.
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Old 9th July 2008, 10:03 AM   #81 (permalink)
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I track my car on a regular basis, and change the oil, brake fluid and pads on every other session. So I agree on some of Nissans points.

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Old 9th July 2008, 08:03 PM   #82 (permalink)
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I track my car on a regular basis, and change the oil, brake fluid and pads on every other session. So I agree on some of Nissans points.

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Me too, but if I am blasting down a B road with VDC off and the gear box goes bang then that is not fair - if it happened in the 911 I have Porsche would not say "sorry PSM was off - tought shit".

I am actually going to the FOS on Friday with some of the guys from Nissan so I will get some more info.

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Old 10th July 2008, 06:29 AM   #83 (permalink)
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What will happen on the second hand market - how would you know if the VDC has been switched off???

You could by a car and then find a major engine / gearbox problem and then be told that it happened when the VDC was off and your not covered....

Can the memory / black box be cleared?

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Old 24th July 2008, 06:49 PM   #84 (permalink)
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I've asked the HPC in the Netherlands about it and they say it will be under garantee if you turn off the VDC. They also said me why would they put the switch on it if you are not allowed to use it without losing garantee ?!
So they think its a strange situation on the US market.

Maybe they dont know it by themselves yet and we have to wait till we get the cars in Europe.
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Old 24th July 2008, 07:32 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Not always sure Nissan HPC Netherlands know whats going on but let's hope they are right.

You'll be at the presentation of the GTR 14th of August?
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Old 24th July 2008, 07:43 PM   #86 (permalink)
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Not always sure Nissan HPC Netherlands know whats going on but let's hope they are right.

You'll be at the presentation of the GTR 14th of August?
I've still not placed my order yet, shame on me.
Maybe i can arrange an invitation, i assume you mean the presentation for people that already placed the order ?
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Old 24th July 2008, 08:23 PM   #87 (permalink)
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I've still not placed my order yet, shame on me.
Maybe i can arrange an invitation, i assume you mean the presentation for people that already placed the order ?
I spoke to my dealer today - **** the VDC warranty I am still avin one. He did say thought if you ordered one today it would be mid 2010 - ouch!!!

I know you should not wish your life away but damn hurry up July 09

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Old 22nd October 2008, 04:25 PM   #88 (permalink)
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so does this include exausts and the warranty is void??
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Old 22nd October 2008, 10:31 PM   #89 (permalink)
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so does this include exausts and the warranty is void??
I beleive I read on NAGTROC a few months back a post where the excerpts from the manual and warranty were posted, saying aftermarket exhausts void warranties.

Summat about the heat output from the zorst and damage to the undertray plastics and boot/rear pax compartment.
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Old 23rd October 2008, 10:55 AM   #90 (permalink)
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So this is the mail contents I have back from Nissan


Please see our current policy detail regarding your VDC (ESP) issue below. Please note however, this is still work in progress.


Special driving condition:
Launch mode needs to be set VDC off. When the customer set VDC off, then warranty is not covered as described in the Owner Manual (OM).
Hang on a second, here are Nissan saying the car HAS Launch control when they've constantly denied it has one and they've ever marketed it as having one.
I think they've just dug themselves a little deeper here by officially stating it has a launch control function.
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