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Old 2nd July 2008, 05:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Turbofuelcell - FAO those wot no a bit about chemicals and shizzle

seriously, a guy i know with a landrover is about to buy one of these.

my brain is too small to explain to him how it MUST be a scam.

so, could one of you lot have look and tell me what its all about

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Old 2nd July 2008, 05:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Of course its a scam, you cant just bolt a fuel cell to a IC engine and expect it to work.

A) If it worked the car manufacturers would be using it

B) If it sounds to good to be true it is

C) A fool and his money........
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Old 2nd July 2008, 06:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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have a look at this HHO gas is a genuine gas and can be burnt. Hydrogen Technologies have been using it in a test vehicle.. and on their site it warns about scam sites using the technology to run engines off HHO gas.

Have a look at Hydrogen Technology Applications, Inc. for more info this looks like the real deal and even they say powering your car on part HHO gas (from electolysis of water) and normal petrol is some way off yet, let alone completley powering your car of HHO gas alone.

Overall cost needs investigating yeah might get more milage by burning HHO gas mixed with petrol but what is the cost of creating the HHO gas in the first place??
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Old 2nd July 2008, 06:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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just read a bit more off the 'dodgy' site

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50 litres of fuel in your tank =
10 litres (20%) are burned i.e. used in driving your vehicle
40 litres (80%) wasted and blown out through the exhaust
Catalytic converters are required to burn off this excess 40 litres of fuel to stop pollution. This 80% wastage figure gets even worse during winter. When a strong smell of Petrol or Diesel is apparent when you (or other motorists) start your car and drive in the morning during winter you are not imagining it, because less of your fuel is being burned and more is being thrown out through the exhaust, hence the strong smell. This extra wastage is due to the fact that the fuel is cold and needs heating up. Minor adjustments can overcome this problem.

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What a load of bo**ocks 40 liters of fuel down your exhaust.. maybe if yor using a Bee*R constantly LOL!
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Old 2nd July 2008, 08:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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It's rubbish, but statement is kinda 'based' on fact (petrol engines are about 20% efficient iirc). Doesn't mean 80% is petrol blown through the exhaust though. lol @ the rich mixture for cold starting petrol smell 'proof', and the cat for burning all that fuel which is 'wasted' out the exhaust...
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Old 3rd July 2008, 05:18 AM   #6 (permalink)
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The HHO gas is vacuumed out by the carburetion system by the engine through the air inlet pipe after the air cleaner. There is never any pressure within the system but a vacuum caused by the engine as it vacuumes out the HHO gas.

Works on a diesel does it ? I hardly think so........

Im sure with more time spent this could be picked apart for the scam it is.

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Oxyhydrogen is often mentioned in conjunction with devices that claim to increase automotive engine efficiency or to operate a car using water as a fuel.

Many of these claims, prima facie, violate the Laws of thermodynamics. See Conservation of energy and Electrolysis of water:Efficiency. See also hydrogen fuel enhancement.
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It's rubbish, but statement is kinda 'based' on fact (petrol engines are about 20% efficient iirc). Doesn't mean 80% is petrol blown through the exhaust though. lol @ the rich mixture for cold starting petrol smell 'proof', and the cat for burning all that fuel which is 'wasted' out the exhaust...
At collage (Years and years ago) as a rough guide they told us....

25% Power
25% Noise
50% Heat

From 100% potential from petrol, If any goes down the pipe then the CAT gets melted....

So reducing friction seems the obvious way to get more bang per buck.
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I can't see a problem with diluting your fuel, to make it go further ....


Works with fizzy drinks and milk
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