Nissan Skyline R34 GTR V-Spec II Nur

[Gigjam]

What an amazing vehicle!

if i was back in the UK i would have loved to have taken it of your hands! but importing an R34 to the states is getting harder and harder by the day. I couldn't justify leaving such a beautiful machine it in old blighty to rot.

[rogerdavis]

Originally Posted by bkvj

no.


thats expensive though....Ferrari 360 money

You can get Ferrari 360's from 35k onwards. That car is too expensive, teh seller will have a mighty hard time now that the R35 is about.

[rogerdavis]

Originally Posted by NITO

Bern,

I would say that the premium has more to do with the end specification than purely the fact it's a Nur. If you look at page one and carefully read the spec list you'll see that there is a massive investment gone into it.

Nevertheless a Nur probably attracts maybe 15K+ over an equivalent stock car, it's not just a Nur, it's a V-Spec II (which in themselves attracts a premium) and it's a 2002 model year and hence the very last of the breed, in fact it was the last Skyline you could buy from new.

The price is academic, of course it's only worth what someone is prepared to pay, I would say that this version will resist succumbing to market forces better than the regular models but time will tell.

If you were going to embark on tuning your own car to a similar spec, it would be far more economical to buy one that is done, (as anyone on here who has tuned their own to this degree will testify to) the fact this one has only done 3,500 miles on its Brand new Top Secret engine means it should have plenty of miles left in it yet.

Regards
Nito

Reading the history of this amazing car, did it not have an off into the armco a few years ago?

Personally I think going for a big single just ruined the car from the drivability point of view. Power delivery of a single is purely for the drag scene. Why do you think Mines never fitted a great big single to their track attack car?

[supdawg79]

Originally Posted by rogerdavis

Reading the history of this amazing car, did it not have an off into the armco a few years ago?

Personally I think going for a big single just ruined the car from the drivability point of view. Power delivery of a single is purely for the drag scene. Why do you think Mines never fitted a great big single to their track attack car?

And to what basis do you find single turbo cars not properly suited for time attack events? Just look at the amount of cars that run time attack events, and most of them are cars that have single turbo setups. HKS's Evo C230R is just about as linear in power as you can get, and being that it started life as a single turbo anyways, it makes the vehicle's power very usable. Mine's had a different theory in keeping with smaller twins. It is mostly helpful for reducing any potential for lag with a larger single, but the drawback here is that a twin setup will always run hotter, and can lead to more mechanical failures. Mine's is properly funded, and anything they throw under the bonnet will always have proper maintenance. A single turbo setup is much more ideal for time attack events. It reduces weight, reduces heat, can provide very linear power through any powerband, and doesn't require having to rev up to the moon to make power. Added stress on the engine for the sake of higher rev's just doesn't make any sense. A motor like that won't stand many days at the track, and will wear out the bearings of just about any motor in a hurry.
Back on topic, this is an extremely clean example of what a GT-R has the potential to be. The platform for which the car was built upon favors the higher asking price in itself.

[Smokey 1]

Mines 57.9

Sauraus R32 56.6

watch and learn YouTube - BNR32 720ps TSUKUBA Super Lap

Smokey

[rogerdavis]

Originally Posted by Smokey 1

Mines 57.9

Sauraus R32 56.6

watch and learn YouTube - BNR32 720ps TSUKUBA Super Lap

Smokey

The Sauraus is something like 1230kgs where as the Mines is 1400kgs with 630bhp its no brainer there!!

[aki]

Originally Posted by rogerdavis

You can get Ferrari 360's from 35k onwards. That car is too expensive, teh seller will have a mighty hard time now that the R35 is about.

sorry for crapping this thread but can you tell me where you have seen ferrari 360's for £35k please?

[NITO]

The Armco off didn't damage the bonnet, or the chassis, or even the radiator or the oil cooler and I drove the car off track, so it was hardly a big smash.

It needed a new bumper, a new wing which had a small dent in it, both headlights (the front wasn't cracked but the rear of the units were slightly cracked) a new rad because it was a little bent but not leaking a slam panel/front bumper bar and an intercooler and it had a new oil cooler because the air guide was bent.

There was a pic about somewhere which showed how minimal the damage was.

With regards to the single, it spools way quicker now, the top end is in another league and the engine is an RB28 anyway so to say it's inferior performance wise is plain misinformed. The difference in torque from this to the Nur is quite simply collosal.

To be honest, I think I'd rather have this back than the new gtr!!

Cheers
Nito

[sky 1t]

Originally Posted by aki

sorry for crapping this thread but can you tell me where you have seen ferrari 360's for £35k please?

At £35K It's a Toyota MR2 conversion that's is a full 360 Spyder replica!
I saw it in Top Marques magazine, nearly had me fooled untill i read the advert.
Pretty good replica too by the looks of it! I would hate to find out what it sounds like though

You may be able to find it on Auto Trader UK - Buy & Sell New & Used Cars, Car Loans, Car Insurance if you do a search?

Ha ha, I found one at £28K, just type in "REPLICA" & price range between "£25 - £30K"

[big_rob_sydney]

Nito, as you are interested to hear peoples views, then perhaps you wont take this wrongly.

I have a 22B which I bought modified. There is scope in the world for different views, and as such I often hear the view of the purist, and the view of the modifier.

I dont honestly know which view is "right".

But I get the impression that a standard car is worth more from the point of view of resale. Whether this is just a Subaru thing, or whether this crosses over to other marques, is debatable.

I suspect that this car would fetch more if it were returned to standard, and the performance parts sold separately. Of course, there is a lot of work to do this, and its not cheap either (or, if you do it yourself, its time consuming; time which you mighty want to spend on other things, like servicing clients, or spending quality time with ones family).

Personally, I'm taking my car back to standard. This doesnt necessarily reflect my own view. Rather, this reflects the view of potential buyers, who seem to demand the car to be standard.

While I could be tempted to be pissed off to no end, the truth is that I bought this car with a reduced price because of the mods, and I clearly explained to the seller that my offer was reduced, because it would cost me money to bring the car back to standard; I'm about as technically capable around cars as a 5 year old, and so I have to pay people to work on them for me.

If I didnt have other things on the go, I'd buy your car, and leave it as is, as I think its a wonderful car. But I would ask that the purchase price were reduced to reflect the future resale, as I would want to take it back to standard to do so. Just my opinion, not as a purist, but as someone thinking towards enjoying the car, and then thinking about resale in a few years time.

[NITO]

Hi Rob,

I agree with you that most buyers do prefer to buy a stock car. However, when it gets to this level of modification, and it's a fresh build, I think there are many who know how much it costs to build such a machine and that even at such a price it can be 'relatively' speaking, a good price ie the cost to build would cost much more.

In my case, this is what happened, please note it's not my car anymore, I sold it over a year and a half ago at the asking price. Skyline prices have taken a tumble in that time and I'm not defending the current price tag which is the same as when I sold it.

I've looked at your 22B, and if I wanted an unmolested example I'd probably look elsewhere, but, if I'd got over the idea of moving away from stock and was of the view that I'd like to modify it, I'd definately want it with the 6 speeder as the 5 speed is rubbish/unreliable when it comes to more than 310lbs/ft torque which doesn't take much modding to get a 22b there anyway.

As the old cliche says, it's worth what someone is willing to pay, sometimes you can hold out and get lucky, sometimes the buyer comes along straightaway, sometimes you can have people fighting for it and offering you more, sometimes you need to take an unreasonable hit if your circumstances dictate and sometimes cars are priced just plain stupid and won't get a look in. There is a car for everyone and everything sells at a price, likewise there are cars that are so special that they simply sell themselves, what makes it special is different for all and comes down to the buyers perception at the end of the day.

In my case, at the time I sold it, I don't think it was priced unrealistically, I base this on the fact that I had at least 7 serious buyers and it sold to the first one to view it.

It's funny to look at the pro comments when I sold the car in this thread, to the anti comments its receiving now, if these are based purely on price then fair enough, but many have been directed at the car itself, it's the same car now that it was then and has only covered 500 miles in this time.

As I said before, the current owner is an approachable chap who would entertain sensible offers. He's set a starting price and that's fair enough. It's better than people who just ask for offers surely, as at least there is a firm starting point.

And just like a car is only worth what someone is willing to pay, conversely, there is a price below which a buyer will simply not be willing to sell, which in an ironic twist reinstates what that car's true worth is, because that IS what its worth to SOMEONE.



Kind regards
Nito

[big_rob_sydney]

Hi Nito,
To pick up on some of your points there, I think this car is simply spectacular. In isolation, I doubt one could ask for much more.

I genuinely think the issue boils down to the R35. People will be looking to what happened with the R32, and R33 when the respective new models came out.

I'd be guessing the negative comments are more in the way of a shield for people thinking the value of R34's will now begin to decline. I see many powerful R32 \ 3's for sale around the 10 - 15k mark, so it wouldnt surprise me if other buyers out there are thinking "in the not-too-distant future, thats what it'll be worth".

On the flip side, what mitigates that, is the price of the R35. I dont know for sure, but I dont believe the R34's were priced in the £50k region.

But this is just speculation. This car is modified, and as such will appeal to a different market.

Best of luck I say for a brilliant car.

Rgds,
Rob

[hodgie]

Originally Posted by big_rob_sydney

Hi Nito,
To pick up on some of your points there, I think this car is simply spectacular. In isolation, I doubt one could ask for much more.

I genuinely think the issue boils down to the R35. People will be looking to what happened with the R32, and R33 when the respective new models came out.

I'd be guessing the negative comments are more in the way of a shield for people thinking the value of R34's will now begin to decline. I see many powerful R32 \ 3's for sale around the 10 - 15k mark, so it wouldnt surprise me if other buyers out there are thinking "in the not-too-distant future, thats what it'll be worth".

On the flip side, what mitigates that, is the price of the R35. I dont know for sure, but I dont believe the R34's were priced in the £50k region.

But this is just speculation. This car is modified, and as such will appeal to a different market.

Best of luck I say for a brilliant car.

Rgds,
Rob

Nito doesn`t own this car anymore, he sold it over a year ago.

[sky 1t]

^Yeah Hodgie^ it makes me laugh when most of the people think it's still for sale by the Thread starter Nito

Can't really blame them if they are new on here, maybe lock/close this thread to stop further confusion about who the car now belongs to?

Anyhow good luck with the sale! (to the dude that bought it off Nito last year)

[NITO]

Surely this is a bit of a bargain now!!

Nissan : R34 GTR VSPEC II NUR

I'd have it back if I was in a position to!!

Cheers
Nito