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Old 29th April 2007, 11:57 AM   #16 (permalink)
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It'll be forged in china to a certain spec then machined to whatever spec at the top brand company, then sold onto whoever.
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Old 29th April 2007, 02:27 PM   #17 (permalink)
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It'll be forged in china to a certain spec then machined to whatever spec at the top brand company, then sold onto whoever.
Yes, the forged 'blanks' are from the same factory in China and the finished machining would be to the different branded company's spec in house.
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Yes, the forged 'blanks' are from the same factory in China and the finished machining would be to the different branded company's spec in house.
From what I have seen, I woudn't count on that being the case all of the time but if the quality control is there it doesn't really matter where they are finished.

Its just a bit missleading for some when they buy a 'japanese' or 'usa' brand believing the quality is superior to what most think is 'chinese crap' only to find out they all the same after all.
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40 years ago everyone thought these odd little cars and radios (with such unfamiliar names as 'Honda' and 'Sony') coming in from Japan were crap too.

Can you see our kids or grandkids going spastic over tuning their Chinese cars and insisting on genuine Chinese parts, versus that "Nigerian crap" :P

I think the most telling thing was when I used to work for The North Face, in San Francisco. We outsourced 90% of manufacturing to China, and only certain, really specialty items were made in-house. I remember a guy bitching about it, remembering the good old days when everything was made in a local factory. My workshop was adjacent to the main sewing room for all US-made product. The room was, to a person, filled with Chinese women, happily chatting along in Chinese.

Whether they're paid cheap Chinese wages or high American wages, the stuff's all Chinese made anyways :P
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Old 30th April 2007, 12:18 PM   #20 (permalink)
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cat power

Just been on the cat power site and it says that it is a US based company, there doesn’t seem to be much info on how or where the products are made, US or China? Also they don't appear to list any conrods for the RB26 engine, this seems to get more and more confusing? You ordered a set of eagle rods from a company in the US, received cat power rods that are made in china, which where branded with the name of a famous Japanese company?
Nevertheless I think you got a very good buy there for $350, stock conrods in the UK will probably cost twice as much. Very tempted to follow suit and buy these rods myself.



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Cal Auto Transpeed filed for Chapter 11 Bankruputcy May 6 ,2006

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Cal Auto Transpeed Power Engine Parts Inc. Bus type N/A. 345 Cloverleaf Drive Suite C Baldwin Park 91706 Chapter: 11 Assets: $3,841,659 Debts: $2,543,281 Doc# LA06-11665-ER File-Date: 04/27/06 Gary Hollingsworth 626-292-2626


Something I heard before - " Patent and Copyright have no Chinese translation"

Anyone else seen an exact Chinese copy of something, down to the logo ? The Chinese are good at copying things, poorly.
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Anyone else seen an exact Chinese copy of something, down to the logo ? The Chinese are good at copying things, poorly.
Cant agree on that statement,, most PC parts are all from China even with strong names like Nvidia for graphic cards as an example paid over 500USD for the new 8800 GTX and everything inside stamped made in china.

Quality varies even within China and we can all spot the difference.

China builds the world buys thats the simple fact of the world we are living in today, some countries will increase charges on chinese products and some are just angery on the low prices that come out of China because they can not compete....
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Cal Auto Transpeed filed for Chapter 11 Bankruputcy May 6 ,2006

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Cal Auto Transpeed Power Engine Parts Inc. Bus type N/A. 345 Cloverleaf Drive Suite C Baldwin Park 91706 Chapter: 11 Assets: $3,841,659 Debts: $2,543,281 Doc# LA06-11665-ER File-Date: 04/27/06 Gary Hollingsworth 626-292-2626


Something I heard before - " Patent and Copyright have no Chinese translation"

Anyone else seen an exact Chinese copy of something, down to the logo ? The Chinese are good at copying things, poorly.
Do you really think an american company would sell copy parts? all down to the logo?

Hey.... you get sued in USA for serving hot coffe, or not putting on the microwave that you cant dry your cat in there. Would they really try to sell a copied product, totally exactly copied to the logo??
Wouldnt Tomei take legal action against them?

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Do you really think an american company would sell copy parts? all down to the logo?

Hey.... you get sued in USA for serving hot coffe, or not putting on the microwave that you cant dry your cat in there. Would they really try to sell a copied product, totally exactly copied to the logo??
Wouldnt Tomei take legal action against them?

Sure . They are in Baldwin Park. Notorious knockoff places in Baldwin Park. There are plenty of places locally that copy products exactly.

Something is just really fishy about that whole thing. Supposed to be eagles,in a CAT box, and they are Tomeis?

Anyone see the counterfit Apex'i and Tein parts ? How about fake designer products? If I were going to make some fake rods, I would pick some expensive ones.
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Old 2nd May 2007, 12:35 AM   #26 (permalink)
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tomie rods come with L19 rod bolts not 2000 series!
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tomei rods come with L19 rod bolts not 2000 series!
Yes,just checked that with my "true" Tomei rods,that are installed in my second engineblock,ARP L19 bolts are installed in the tomei´s,cant check the look of the logo,but they have just a 4 digit number on one side of the big end bearing,Eaglerods have normaly more infos one side.

From the look,i would say they look the same,but the look has nothing to say
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Perhaps this company is copying Tomei rods????Someone should inform Tomei. This can ruin there reputation if forgery is going on. I seem to remember that a co in China was copying Apexi turbo timers not so long ago.


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Old 2nd May 2007, 06:37 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Everyone is copying everything. Buy quality for your expensive motor or if your safety is concerned.

Ex: http://www.tein.com/counterfeit/warning.html
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The finish on the Tomei Rods is also slightly different, the ARP 2000 on your rods has also been stamped in very agriculturally.
Glad i didnt put conterfeit Tomei's in Evo V1's engine

All jokes aside get them balanced if your worried, i'm sure they will be fine (rod bolts not sure)

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