What does it take to beat an ENZO? - GT-R Register - Official Nissan Skyline and GTR Owners Club forum

gtrlux · 18th August 2007, 12:46 PM

Basicly what modifictions would you need to send the Rosso to the oblivion?
Brut power will play a major role, but don`t just post 1000HP please . . .
I want to see chassis, handling mods as well . .

I am asking this as I met somebody , who claims owning an Enzo,(probably has one), and who says that basicly no street tuned car aviable in japan, under 60k could catch him up on Suzuka . .

. . . well he never met the second coming of god then . .

MeLLoN Stu · 18th August 2007, 12:51 PM

a Z06 if recent threads are to be believed

gtrlux · 18th August 2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MeLLoN Stu

a Z06 if recent threads are to be believed

LOL probably

. . . . but I want to do it in a GTR.

MeLLoN Stu · 18th August 2007, 01:06 PM

certainly possible. Going to the extreme end of the scale though.

quick google gives the following stats on an enzo:
0-60 in 3.14 seconds
0-100 in 6.6 seconds

Compared with a rather fast GTR:
Keith Cowies car
0-60 in 2.539
0-100 in 4.36

so it's definately possible in a straight line, but obviously requires quite a monsterous spec car.
Wonder what Mr Begley's car does the above in as that's a true road car.
and yes, I know the numbers quoted have little bearing on real life on the road performance, and I know there's better examples, and so on. I was hypothesising.

Thrust · 18th August 2007, 01:18 PM

"under 60k" what?

Is 60k USD, GBP? what he paid for his Enzo then?

gtrlux · 18th August 2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrust

"under 60k" what?

Is 60k USD, GBP? what he paid for his Enzo then?

No, for 60k USD you get the diecast of the Enzo

he ment under 60000 USD cars are crap, they can never take it on against an Enzo, even tuned in a street legal way . .

Jakester · 18th August 2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gtrlux

No, for 60k USD you get the diecast of the Enzo

he ment under 60000 USD cars are crap, they can never take it on against an Enzo, even tuned in a street legal way . .

bly correct.

Well, being that 60,000USD is just a little over 30,000GBP, he is probably correct

MeLLoN Stu · 18th August 2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakester

bly correct.

Well, being that 60,000USD is just a little over 30,000GBP, he is probably correct

there's two GTR's that have been up here for <30k that spring to mind as potential, or rather maybe possibly, enzo beaters in a straight line.
enzo's are fiercely fast though.

R33_GTS-t · 18th August 2007, 02:32 PM

I reckon the Mines GTR would suffice around a track. Any times on the Enzo for Tsukuba?

TyreKill · 18th August 2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by R33_GTS-t

I reckon the Mines GTR would suffice around a track. Any times on the Enzo for Tsukuba?

From the footage ive seen/got of the Mines badboy, it will rip the ass out of an Enzo, mince it, n' throw it back at it!
Correct me if im wrong pls!

kismetcapitan · 19th August 2007, 01:11 AM

An 800bhp JUN Supra beat an Enzo from a rolling 80kph start a month ago in a wangan race here in Korea (empty road). The Enzo probably would have eventually come out on top, but they ran out of road.

This is an interesting question - when I first set out on my GT-R journey, my goal was to match the performance of an Enzo. All I've managed to do is exceed its peak power output. I wouldn't be able to outhandle or out accelerate the damned thing, unless the traction control aids and crap were turned off, and the driver of the Enzo was:

Marky_GTSt · 20th August 2007, 08:26 AM

Saying and enzo can beat a 60k car is like saying my Skyline can beat a £50 car... its a pointless comparison really...

It would be better to compare it to a $500k Souped up Jap car to make things fair...

MacGTR · 20th August 2007, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by gtrlux

well he never met the second coming of god then . .

MINES

Nocturnal · 20th August 2007, 09:54 AM

First get a R34 Z-Tune...!

Then give it to the best road GTR maker in Japan... Mine's!!!

Then hand them an empty cheque and say "go for it"

I am sure you will see some interesting creation!!!

plkettle · 20th August 2007, 05:19 PM

I doubt that the handling of a skyline will ever match an enzo becuase it is like comparing a DTM car with an F1 car.

the outright power can easily be beaten but the setup and handling of an ENZO will always be better than a skyline because of the way it is designed.

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18th August 2007, 12:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
gtrlux MODERATOR Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Aichi Japan Posts: 4,809	What does it take to beat an ENZO? Basicly what modifictions would you need to send the Rosso to the oblivion? Brut power will play a major role, but don`t just post 1000HP please . . . I want to see chassis, handling mods as well . . I am asking this as I met somebody , who claims owning an Enzo,(probably has one), and who says that basicly no street tuned car aviable in japan, under 60k could catch him up on Suzuka . . . . . well he never met the second coming of god then . . __________________ -------------------------- *GTR FORUM POWER MODERATOR* Ihr koennt mich auf Deutsch kontaktieren! Vous pouvez me contacter en français! I SURVIVED A LAP ON THE NÜRBURGRING WITH MOLEMAN . . . and Robbie!

18th August 2007, 12:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
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18th August 2007, 01:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
MeLLoN Stu GTR Register Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North East Posts: 1,564	certainly possible. Going to the extreme end of the scale though. quick google gives the following stats on an enzo: 0-60 in 3.14 seconds 0-100 in 6.6 seconds Compared with a rather fast GTR: Keith Cowies car 0-60 in 2.539 0-100 in 4.36 so it's definately possible in a straight line, but obviously requires quite a monsterous spec car. Wonder what Mr Begley's car does the above in as that's a true road car. and yes, I know the numbers quoted have little bearing on real life on the road performance, and I know there's better examples, and so on. I was hypothesising. __________________ My House of Kolor R33 GTR For sale at a bargain price.. http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/89...spec-sale.html

18th August 2007, 01:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
Thrust GTROC Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Japan Posts: 2,965	"under 60k" what? Is 60k USD, GBP? what he paid for his Enzo then? __________________ All play and no work makes Jack a right berk. Spider Godwin Action Group for the Ban against Skirts to be Lifted

18th August 2007, 02:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
R33_GTS-t GTR Register Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Between bans or with mummy (kekeke) Posts: 7,656	I reckon the Mines GTR would suffice around a track. Any times on the Enzo for Tsukuba? __________________ Those listed below are lazy, thieves and liars. WHERE NOT TO WORK AFTER UNIVERSITY

19th August 2007, 01:11 AM	#11 (permalink)
kismetcapitan GTR Register Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seoul Korea Posts: 5,626	An 800bhp JUN Supra beat an Enzo from a rolling 80kph start a month ago in a wangan race here in Korea (empty road). The Enzo probably would have eventually come out on top, but they ran out of road. This is an interesting question - when I first set out on my GT-R journey, my goal was to match the performance of an Enzo. All I've managed to do is exceed its peak power output. I wouldn't be able to outhandle or out accelerate the damned thing, unless the traction control aids and crap were turned off, and the driver of the Enzo was: __________________ 1991 BNR32 2007 BMW F800S 1999 Suzuki Hayabusa stage one turbo (not running yet) 2009 Mercedes-Benz B200 Turbo (ordered) 2010 BMW S1000RR (first deposit in Korea placed) There are only three true sports: mountain climbing, auto racing, and bullfighting. Everything else is merely a game.

20th August 2007, 08:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
Marky_GTSt New Users Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Near Sheffield Posts: 2,930	Saying and enzo can beat a 60k car is like saying my Skyline can beat a £50 car... its a pointless comparison really... It would be better to compare it to a $500k Souped up Jap car to make things fair... __________________ I am Jacks complete lack of surprise.

20th August 2007, 09:54 AM	#14 (permalink)
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20th August 2007, 05:19 PM	#15 (permalink)
plkettle New Users Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: york Posts: 1,189	I doubt that the handling of a skyline will ever match an enzo becuase it is like comparing a DTM car with an F1 car. the outright power can easily be beaten but the setup and handling of an ENZO will always be better than a skyline because of the way it is designed.

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