Trackers for GTR

[Snowfiend]

Originally Posted by pupsi

Theres a product called Zoombak locater, you can log on to a website and check in realtime where your car is or being driven. Check it out at;
Zoombak GPS Auto & Vehicle Tracker, Dog & Pet Tracking, Car Security Device

Cobra Trak-Q also does this if you take out the 'business' option and is thatcham rated

Got a few cool add-ons now too...

[R35Bren]

Have done some reading either 'Navtrak CobraTrak5' or 'Tracker Response' look like a good option and unless anything better hits the market in the next 11 months I'll be going for one of these.

Both require the driver to have an ADR card on their person in order to be able to start the engine and 'Tracker Response' has both a GPS and UHF signal so it would be more difficult to hide. 'Navtrak CobraTrak5' has a facility whereby the police can immobilise the engine at any point (remote engine crank inhibition) which could come in handy. Both are category5.

I figure if it gets stolen it would either be when I'm returning to the car and the bar-stewards are waiting behind a corner for me or they'll break into the house to get the intelligent key. Either way they are going to need to return for the ADR card and if they catch me at home they'll be wearing my ice axes or any other climbing equipment I reach for from under the bed.

[BigNige]

sounds like a good idea, thanks for the post recommendations, there are a lot of trackers out there and I def want one.

[Eric GTR]

Originally Posted by Robbie J

get anti hijack, if a lot of thugs get the car walk away, call the police and it will stop within 200yards

R

my thoughts

This car is gonna be no 1 on the steal list for export, gonna read about alot of break ins to get keys and car jacking i think.

[R35Bren]

Originally Posted by Eric GTR

my thoughts

This car is gonna be no 1 on the steal list for export, gonna read about alot of break ins to get keys and car jacking i think.

Unfortunately I think you're right, I'm a bit worried really so we will probably be moving to somewhere more secure next summer as we don’t even have double glazing or proper window locks where we are now. No garage either! What else can you do apart from alarm, tracker/engine cut off etc?

I remember when I was younger and how upset my Mum was when her XR3i got stolen one night and going with her to see the spot they torched it on a country lane after a joy ride. Not nice. Her pride and joy.

I'm 25, 6'3" 17st and know how to handle myself so won’t be making it easy for anyone but when it happens it happens fast and you have to remember these sorts of 'people' live in a world of violence. It all depends on how many of them are waiting for you in that multi-storey when you're walking back to your wheels alone.

My mate has just retired from 32 years traffic policing and says the going rate for most cars is £150 . . enough for the next fix. The druggy that usually steals the keys usually has a designated drop off point where the car will be left to see if it has a tracker before it is picked up. Bear in mind he might get a severe butt whooping if he comes back empty handed too.

In your home - I have it on good advice that legally the worst thing you can do is go after them with whatever weapon comes to hand, even if they have violated your space, crossed the line and put effectively put their lives in your hands. . . Don’t go sneaking around in the dark with your baseball bat/ice axe as most of the time they'll do a runner as soon as they know they've disturbed you . . . but he did say to shout "get the !"*"**!! out of my house!" (or whatever 'balls out' obsenity you can muster) from the top of the stairs. If they decide to take it to the next level you are quite within your rights to unleash hell on them (self defence) but it can’t be half hearted and when their down and out you have to have enough wits about you to stop or the balance steps back into their favour. One of my mates colleagues lost his job on the force after taking down a particularly nasty bloke, the first 5 blows with the baton were seen to be lawful but the last 2 were not . . .

There are 2 schools of thought. . . some people prefer to leave the keys ‘on the side’ downstairs so in the event of someone entering the house they can get the keys quickly and leave. On the other hand, most people with our sorts of marques tend to keep the keys closer to heart and its then when it turns nasty as you can imagine.

I don’t have kids but I dread to think how it would go down if my girlfriend was home alone. I don’t want this car to be a burden so having a tracker and auto engine immobiliser will provide piece of mind even if it does cost a grand. I really like the ADR (automatic driver recognition) card idea from Cobra5 and Tracker.

Sorry about the long post chaps but it’s something I feel quite strongly about. Dont have nightmares!

[Steve]

Robbie

So how does the anti hijack device work ? I would prefer the flamers they have in South Africa, but that mite burn the poor lil b*stards ! LOL

[Benji27]

Originally Posted by R35Bren

Sorry about the long post chaps but it’s something I feel quite strongly about. Dont have nightmares!

Nope, It was quite interesting.

I have similar views.
If you get carjacked (or homejacked), just let the bastards go away with the car and then call the police/tracker company/insurance company.

That kind of thing could easily get nasty, as most of the attackers usually carry weapons. There was a case in Belgium a couple of months back where they even opened fire with assault rifles of a police van coming their way, killing a young police officer and badly wounding another one.

I'm a pretty tough guy (did martial arts for half of my life, 1m90 and 100kg), but I wont risk my old skin going against a couple of druggie wielding AK47s, just for saving a bloody car.

[R35Bren]

Originally Posted by Benji27

Nope, It was quite interesting.

If you get carjacked (or homejacked), just let the bastards go away with the car and then call the police/tracker company/insurance company.

Sound advice. I think taking the necessary security precautions & having it clear in your own head now what to do always helps. You're right it's not worth being scarred or dead over a car . . even if it means a 2 year wait for another one!

Hopefully it'll never happen but with a car being stolen ever 90 seconds in the UK I think the R35 is going to be high on the list. Plus . . . I dont fancy the polices chances of stopping the beast with the RE070 run flats . . very handy after you've just reversed into the jewellers!

[Eric GTR]

Originally Posted by R35Bren

Unfortunately I think you're right, I'm a bit worried really so we will probably be moving to somewhere more secure next summer as we don’t even have double glazing or proper window locks where we are now. No garage either! What else can you do apart from alarm, tracker/engine cut off etc?

I remember when I was younger and how upset my Mum was when her XR3i got stolen one night and going with her to see the spot they torched it on a country lane after a joy ride. Not nice. Her pride and joy.

I'm 25, 6'3" 17st and know how to handle myself so won’t be making it easy for anyone but when it happens it happens fast and you have to remember these sorts of 'people' live in a world of violence. It all depends on how many of them are waiting for you in that multi-storey when you're walking back to your wheels alone.

My mate has just retired from 32 years traffic policing and says the going rate for most cars is £150 . . enough for the next fix. The druggy that usually steals the keys usually has a designated drop off point where the car will be left to see if it has a tracker before it is picked up. Bear in mind he might get a severe butt whooping if he comes back empty handed too.

In your home - I have it on good advice that legally the worst thing you can do is go after them with whatever weapon comes to hand, even if they have violated your space, crossed the line and put effectively put their lives in your hands. . . Don’t go sneaking around in the dark with your baseball bat/ice axe as most of the time they'll do a runner as soon as they know they've disturbed you . . . but he did say to shout "get the !"*"**!! out of my house!" (or whatever 'balls out' obsenity you can muster) from the top of the stairs. If they decide to take it to the next level you are quite within your rights to unleash hell on them (self defence) but it can’t be half hearted and when their down and out you have to have enough wits about you to stop or the balance steps back into their favour. One of my mates colleagues lost his job on the force after taking down a particularly nasty bloke, the first 5 blows with the baton were seen to be lawful but the last 2 were not . . .

There are 2 schools of thought. . . some people prefer to leave the keys ‘on the side’ downstairs so in the event of someone entering the house they can get the keys quickly and leave. On the other hand, most people with our sorts of marques tend to keep the keys closer to heart and its then when it turns nasty as you can imagine.

I don’t have kids but I dread to think how it would go down if my girlfriend was home alone. I don’t want this car to be a burden so having a tracker and auto engine immobiliser will provide piece of mind even if it does cost a grand. I really like the ADR (automatic driver recognition) card idea from Cobra5 and Tracker.

Sorry about the long post chaps but it’s something I feel quite strongly about. Dont have nightmares!

Its a real threat, alot of the export cars are done via organised gangs rather than random druggies and they have a shopping list so to speak, your right in that they only get a few grand for the car but if they do a couple of week its still alot of money.

I know abit about it after having my saphire cossie stolen 3 times in a year, and the last time they cut the front of in a farmers field to steal the engine (later found fitted in a travellers p100 pick up truck ...). If i remember correctly within the first few months of starting the RS4 site we had one carjack on a M way (they bumped into him to get him to stop before lamping him) One stolen from a private house by nicking the keys whilst they slept and one stolen from a dealership as it was unloaded.

You have to be carefully with the hero stuff even if you fend of 3 of them at once its just as likely the fourth one will stab you in the back whilst your busy, there pretty much cowards and desperate. And then of course being the UK your gonna get nicked for violating there rights to steal your car and for assaulting them. I was told by a DS friend to get an old screw driver from a boot fare, one that doesn't match your tools, then stick there prints on it whilst there "sleeping" and swear to the police when they arrive the guy tried to kill you wil it. Pretty crap thing to have to do but they only way he could think of that you wouldn't get nicked for defending yourself, family and property.....

I will certainly be getting a tracker with hijack system on mine, there gonna have trouble following me home thou to find where i live lool

[Eric GTR]

Originally Posted by Eric GTR

there gonna have trouble following me home thou to find where i live lool

of course in reality this is not true since all they need is to see your number plate and the DVLA will sell the address to anyone who applys for £3

[Bodi]

Originally Posted by Eric GTR

there gonna have trouble following me home thou to find where i live lool:

I think the problem can also be trying to get the police to attend. We had a large woodchipper (15K value) delivered a few years back and withing 45 mins of it being dropped off was stolen. The police assumed it was followed from the previous person that hired it.

My other half was following it down part of the M4 and the police would not respond.

It took 5 days for anyone to attend the house and even that turned out to be the village bobby. Needless to say we got no where and the opportunity was there to catch these people.

I think i will just put mine in the garage and a couple of hydraulic posts that raise to effectivley seal the car in there.

[WoREoD]

Originally Posted by Eric GTR

of course in reality this is not true since all they need is to see your number plate and the DVLA will sell the address to anyone who applys for £3

Interesting. Are you allowed to register it to a place where its not usually kept?

[Aerodramatics]

Originally Posted by Eric GTR

of course in reality this is not true since all they need is to see your number plate and the DVLA will sell the address to anyone who applys for £3

Yes, and its not like car crims won't have bent access to a legitimate biz having electronic access to the DVLA database! Though, I bet even bold-faced paper application would get through...

How to request information from DVLA records : Directgov - Motoring

Data protection? - my ar$e !!!

Still, at least they have a complaints procedure.... summat to fill in whilst recovering in hossy... gits !

Release of information from DVLA records : Directgov - Motoring

I say change the law to imprison DVLA bosses for aiding and abetting car-jacking, GBH and ABH. That'd make sure they bloomin well DON'T give oot personal data.

Ruddy MPs can do summat useful when in London next

Until that happy day it's a Tracker, sledgehammer and pair of rottweilers for me...

[Aerodramatics]

Originally Posted by WoREoD

Interesting. Are you allowed to register it to a place where its not usually kept?

The only obvious way around it, imho, is to register a non-trading biz with Company House at an alternative address and register the car in the Co. name. Then have the Royal Mail forward mail to your real address, should you wish to recieve your renewal address. Course then you have to do returns on your co. What a malarky! Nobody' gonna do that in a hurry.

IMHO, the DVLA should take the reasonable precaution of actually speaking or writing to you to get your CONSENT and INTERVIEWING the applicant and postiviely checking their identity (e.g. visiting their home) BEFORE deciding on release of the data, ESPECIALLY when the car under question is a #1 target for car thieves - it does't take much thought to check things out properly beforehand, rather than give home address details out to thieves for a £2.50 a pop.... idiots !

[BigNige]

Are any of the official nissan gtr dealers getting together to sort out a bulk purchase/deal with a very good tracker company for all of us?!