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Luckham · 25th June 2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Thrust

What they need is quality opposition.
Al Jazeera English - Africa - Tsvangirai: Why I pulled out... Mugabe might even respect a strong opposition!

Errm.. If you say so..

I must say you have an interesting source of reference material..

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Originally Posted by Jim27

Mugabe will just murder strong opposition. He is an evil, wretched, rotten soul and the only solution is to snuff him out and make it look like a natural death. The only problem with that is that one of his minions will step up to the mark and fill his boots. That's why politicians talk about regime change not just bumping someone off. So although on a personal level I can totally sympathise with the desire to see his brains forcibly removed from his skull by a large caliber sniper round in front of TV cameras, it wouldn't solve the overall problem.

I personally wouldn't have a problem with a dictator so long as they could provide for their people and ruled fairly, even if their ascension to power wasn't democratic. Sometimes it's actually BETTER for a nation to have that sort of strong, single-minded leadership. But Mugabe's proven that he's ineffective, a terrible people manager and downright corrupt and murderous.

Thrust · 25th June 2008, 12:32 PM

Luckham, Al Jazeera is one of the places I visit regularly, (even though many of their articles come straight from the BBC), in an attempt to see the world from many different angles. Hate to get lop-sided. Anyway, are you suggesting that the interview might be skewed for some reason because it's Al Jazeera? Their magazine is very anti-logic and stupidly emotional, but their international web daily is quite well balanced, I feel, and they do come up with some genuine investigative reporting every so often.

As for Mugabe, the man we all love to hate... I have spent so much time on imagining different ways of wiping the sweaty smile off his face, but it's like throwing stones at a reflection in the pond. He succeeds admirably in getting up our noses, and this must be one of the reasons why his supporters still love him.

So, I concentrated on an interview with Morgan, and realized again that I have been supporting him purely because he's against Mugabe, and not because I know what he would really be able to accomplish in Zimbabwe.

nismooooooo · 25th June 2008, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by nismooooooo
and since when has america and uk given a shit about anyone else anyway?

Please go away.

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Originally Posted by Trev
Send in Rambo.

Job done

That's what we do, isn't it?
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the problem with you is you watch too many films by the sound of it, so WHY exactly do they want to attack iran? please dont tell me your falling for the same bullshit as they told you about iraq ffs.

Luckham
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NBM33 · 25th June 2008, 09:13 PM

Wow ..I bet he'll be really p1ssed when he finds out weve stripped him off his honorary Knighthood

Trev · 25th June 2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NBM33

Wow ..I bet he'll be really p1ssed when he finds out weve stripped him off his honorary Knighthood

I'm shocked he even recieved one!!!

Did Sadam get one? Bin "bag" Ladden get one?

FFS, what has he EVER done worthy to recieve that award???

R33_GTS-t · 26th June 2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Trev

FFS, what has he EVER done worthy to recieve that award???

A strong supporter of the anti-apartheid movement in South Africa.

He has become a turd of late though. Time to flush. However, I don't want to see a puppet in his place. Unfortunately I think the MDC leader fits that description.

Blow Dog · 26th June 2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by R33_GTS-t

He has become a turd of late though. Time to flush.

Quote of the week.

R33_GTS-t · 26th June 2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Blow Dog

Quote of the week.

That's why you keep me here.

turboslippers · 27th June 2008, 07:58 PM

He does have some natty jackets though...and nice to see the moustache that went out of fashion some 50 years ago is alive and well. I can't see Gillette contacting him anytime soon mind you...

I think the bit where he proclaimed only God will remove him from power suggests that democracy isn't really at the top of his agenda..

What's the rumour, he suffers from tertiary syphilis and , hence, his brain is somewhat addled?
Has anyone got a google earth on his pad? I hear he was building a quite splendid little retreat
Ignoring the obvious colonial suggestions wouldn't it be just great if someone dropped a small bomb on his new pad,,just to annoy him. (before the small sniper team goes in and erases him obviously)
It would be a 'Grand Designs - Re-designed (courtesy of explosives)'

Sean · 27th June 2008, 10:18 PM

In terms of international action against Zimbabwe it is rather difficult because the country has democratic electons. While other African nations turn a blind eye to the rather obvious gerrymandering it would be a different matter if the West decided that it didn't like the outcome of said elections and invaded. Its a rather unfortunate rule in that while a dictator is only killing his own people other nations tend not to give a sh!t

Trev · 27th June 2008, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

In terms of international action against Zimbabwe it is rather difficult because the country has democratic electons.

FPMSL!!!!!

Think your find Mugabe KILLS ANYONE that opposes him.....

Hardly democratic mate!

NBM33 · 28th June 2008, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Trev

FPMSL!!!!!

Think your find Mugabe KILLS ANYONE that opposes him.....

Hardly democratic mate!

He's also buggered the 2009 cricket fixtures up. More reason the assassinate him

Sean · 28th June 2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Trev

FPMSL!!!!!

Think your find Mugabe KILLS ANYONE that opposes him.....

Hardly democratic mate!

Trev - Technically they are democratic elections and Zimbabwe is a democracy. He may well have gerrymandered every election he's stood in but that sort of thing goes on in all democratic countries to a lesser or greater extent. The difference this time round is he's had to make it more overt to the point where he can't credibly deny that this has gone on.

R33_GTS-t · 28th June 2008, 06:06 PM

Correct. All 'democracy' means is that an election is held. Even if people are dragged down the street by their hair at gun point to the polling booth, it still counts unfortunately. Far too much emphasis is placed on one word and not enough on what actually goes on.

Trev · 28th June 2008, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Trev - Technically they are democratic elections and Zimbabwe is a democracy.

That's where mine and millions of people views differ from yours then!

Being dragged into a voting station and FORCED to vote is not being DEMOCRATIC!

IT'S A F*****G DICTATORSHIP!!!

FFS.

25th June 2008, 12:32 PM	#17 (permalink)
Thrust GTROC Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Japan Posts: 3,005	Luckham, Al Jazeera is one of the places I visit regularly, (even though many of their articles come straight from the BBC), in an attempt to see the world from many different angles. Hate to get lop-sided. Anyway, are you suggesting that the interview might be skewed for some reason because it's Al Jazeera? Their magazine is very anti-logic and stupidly emotional, but their international web daily is quite well balanced, I feel, and they do come up with some genuine investigative reporting every so often. As for Mugabe, the man we all love to hate... I have spent so much time on imagining different ways of wiping the sweaty smile off his face, but it's like throwing stones at a reflection in the pond. He succeeds admirably in getting up our noses, and this must be one of the reasons why his supporters still love him. So, I concentrated on an interview with Morgan, and realized again that I have been supporting him purely because he's against Mugabe, and not because I know what he would really be able to accomplish in Zimbabwe. __________________ All play and no work makes Jack a right berk. Spider Godwin Action Group for the Ban against Skirts to be Lifted

27th June 2008, 07:58 PM	#24 (permalink)
turboslippers GTROC Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Essex Posts: 2,000	He does have some natty jackets though...and nice to see the moustache that went out of fashion some 50 years ago is alive and well. I can't see Gillette contacting him anytime soon mind you... I think the bit where he proclaimed only God will remove him from power suggests that democracy isn't really at the top of his agenda.. What's the rumour, he suffers from tertiary syphilis and , hence, his brain is somewhat addled? Has anyone got a google earth on his pad? I hear he was building a quite splendid little retreat Ignoring the obvious colonial suggestions wouldn't it be just great if someone dropped a small bomb on his new pad,,just to annoy him. (before the small sniper team goes in and erases him obviously) It would be a 'Grand Designs - Re-designed (courtesy of explosives)' __________________ regards Ben R32 GTR (very economical) Saab V6 convertible (75+ mpg on a run...) BMW 328i sport (runs on thin air)

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25th June 2008, 04:58 PM	#18 (permalink)
nismooooooo GTR Register Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 74	Originally Posted by nismooooooo and since when has america and uk given a shit about anyone else anyway? Please go away. Quote: Originally Posted by Trev Send in Rambo. Job done That's what we do, isn't it? __________________ the problem with you is you watch too many films by the sound of it, so WHY exactly do they want to attack iran? please dont tell me your falling for the same bullshit as they told you about iraq ffs. Luckham __________________

25th June 2008, 09:13 PM	#19 (permalink)
NBM33 GTR Register Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: AKA..Chipper on SOC....Hereford Posts: 434	Wow ..I bet he'll be really p1ssed when he finds out weve stripped him off his honorary Knighthood

27th June 2008, 10:18 PM	#25 (permalink)
Sean GTR Register Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In the close proximity of Nina Gordon Posts: 1,959	In terms of international action against Zimbabwe it is rather difficult because the country has democratic electons. While other African nations turn a blind eye to the rather obvious gerrymandering it would be a different matter if the West decided that it didn't like the outcome of said elections and invaded. Its a rather unfortunate rule in that while a dictator is only killing his own people other nations tend not to give a sh!t

28th June 2008, 06:06 PM	#29 (permalink)
R33_GTS-t GTR Register Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 587 days from disposing of Labour. BNFL are shit. Bomb the banks. Posts: 7,908	Correct. All 'democracy' means is that an election is held. Even if people are dragged down the street by their hair at gun point to the polling booth, it still counts unfortunately. Far too much emphasis is placed on one word and not enough on what actually goes on.