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Old 15th March 2011, 10:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Aeromotive 340lph and Deatchwerks 300+lph in tank fuel pumps

anyone here running these ? saw them on evolutionm.net and Supraforums.
just wondering what is needed to drop one in a R32 GT-R

$165.00 USD shipped it says on the site(awdmotorsports), probably talking about the US but seems like a good price for the Aeromotive

Application guide can be found here for the Aeromotive: Drop in for bunch of cars but doesnt say Skyline though ;/
http://static.speedunlimited.com/ins...2_appguide.pdf

The aeromotive 340l/ph fuel pump is a mirror image of the walbro 255l/ph. What that means is the pulls (+/-) are reversed. If you're going to install this you will need to swap the pins on the fuel pump jumper harness so it goes to the wiring harness in the proper polarity.


$169.00 USD here
Aeromotive 340LPH IN-TANK Pump - TopSpeed Inc. Store



This is from evolutionm.net



The Aeromotive 340 Stealth Fuel Pump is a high-output, in-tank, electric fuel pump that fits most popular EFI applications. The Aeromotive 340 is a compact, lightweight pump that bolts into most existing hanger assemblies. (to find your vehicle, see the applications guide below)
What sets the 340 Stealth Pump apart is its superior flow throughout a wide pressure range. Compared to a typical 255 lph pump at 40 psi, the 340 boasts 340 lph at the same pressure. Over 30% more flow. This pump is ideal for applications requiring more flow while retaining the factory lines and mounting provisions available in the Original Equipment (O.E.) configuration. The 340 is also perfect for use as a universal replacement for applications that require more flow to support forced air power adders such as turbo and supercharged applications.

• P/N 11140 is the same configuration as the GSS340
• Fits most vehicles where a 255 lph is applicable.
• Center Inlet
• Designed for in-tank use only
• Can be used in Carbureted or EFI applications
• Turbine pump mechanism increases durability and can be used in pulse modulated applications.

These include the Filter kit and everything below..

Includes Pump & All Drop Parts:
• Pump
• Filter
• Wiring Pigtail
• Rubber Hose
• (2) Clamps
• Rubber Grommet





Deatschwerks 300+ lph pump seems to flow about the same and costs also $169.00 USD


Click the link to see more info and what cars its direct drop in

DeatschWerks.com | 300+ LPH High Flow In-Tank Fuel Pump | Fuel Pumps | DeatschWerks

Side by side on paper the Aeromotive and DW300 look almost identical. At 90 psi fuel pressure both seem to pump out 200LPH. According to deatschwerks this pump gains significant flow from higher voltage.

Outflow the Competition.

Introducing the highest flowing in-tank pump yet. Surpassing the competition 300LPH at a time.

* Flows 300+ litres per hour
* In-tank application specific fitment
* Ethanol compatible
* 3-year no-fault warranty
* Quiet and reliable turbine impeller

Universal pump kit includes:

* 2"x2" sock
* Electrical connector
* 4" of fuel line
* Miscellaneous hardware




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some info i found on supraforums


saw this posted over on Supraforums by Mario @ Titan Motorsports

This is his personal Supra with 3x Aeromotive pumps on E85

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The car just made 1152WHP on the pumps, stock alternator, stock wring, and plenty of room to make more power. I think this will be good for 1250whp on e85 and probably 1400whp on gasoline. Base fuel pressure was 45psi and the injectors were precisions 225lb/hr
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base fuel pressure was 45psi, running e85 out of the pump, and there is plenty of room for more power, unfortunately we reached the limits of my turbo. These pumps do what they advertise 100%. Also note that i'm running a stock TT alternator, stock wires, and dual electric fans.
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The flow bench data on the hanger proves they flow more than walbros, people are maxing out walbros @ 1150 on gasoline with similar setups. there is no doub't this pumps flow more in the bench and the real world than the walbros. You can make the case on the densos, as they are closer in flow capabilities to the aeromotives, but then you also have to take into account the densors are much louder, bulkier and draw more electricity.

one more quote that was posted on Supraforums 570 whp with a single 340 on E85 with room for more sounds pretty good given that E85 needs about ~30% more fuel


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I'm liking my Aero 340, mine is wired direct to battery power and with 800cc sidefeeds I hit ~570 rwhp on E85 using a single 340 pump and was still maintaining fuel pressure at this level. Didn't think this would be possible on E85 since it needs 25-30% more fuel, but we did it and would've turned boost up more but clutch would not have been able to hang.
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I'm running a single DW on my R33 GTR and used the "generic" nissan kit from DW feeding 740CC injectors. Put down 539 to the wheels. It came with near everything I needed to mount it. i just used some extra rubber fuel hose to insulate the pump housing from the metal clamp.
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I'm running a single DW on my R33 GTR and used the "generic" nissan kit from DW feeding 740CC injectors. Put down 539 to the wheels. It came with near everything I needed to mount it. i just used some extra rubber fuel hose to insulate the pump housing from the metal clamp.
nice , did you do the live feed mod / direct power feed to the pump also ?

since the Aeromotive pump is supporting 570 whp on e85 with room to go then the DW should be able to be pretty close and that would mean it should support 740 to the wheels on gasoline
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The sheet that came with the 300lph pump said its actual flow was 331lph at 13.5v. I think they just rate the pump at the minimum it would possibly flow. I didnt do the lve feed mod yet only because I havent found a need yet. On a seperate note this pump is not as loud as the walbro it replaced.
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I'm intrested in this tread, since im looking for a new pump and these look 'bolt-on-ish' into a R33 GTR tank. Are these a good deal over Bosch pump? Thanks.
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My mate has one of the DW in his Evo running 500/500 flywheel power with 1000cc RC injectors.

Its been fine so far but only been in the car for a month but was mapped to 500 with it in. Its quieter than the walbro as well.
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I'm intrested in this tread, since im looking for a new pump and these look 'bolt-on-ish' into a R33 GTR tank. Are these a good deal over Bosch pump? Thanks.
The price sure is, i could get 2 DW's for the price of a bosch. In about a week when im back at my desktop I'll try and post some pictures of when I installed it.
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The price sure is, i could get 2 DW's for the price of a bosch. In about a week when im back at my desktop I'll try and post some pictures of when I installed it.
very intrested in the pics and any feedback on the pumps, i'm looking at going for [email protected] the fly this year and am currently researching fuel systems.

so far i have decided on;
1. 720cc injectors
2. dual entry fuel rail
3. uprated intank pump (not sure which one yet though)
4. fuel pressure reg

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The guys who make the AMS 9 35 GTR have been testing the aeromotive ones. They havent posted any results yet but said there alot quieter than the walbros.

I think im gonna give the aeromotive a go, the DW and Aeromotive are exactly the same size as the walbros btw.
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decided to order the Deatschwerks fuel pump, hope it lives up to my hopes(to be able to support ~750 whp on gasoline )
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i know the nissan ones are the same part number, but will it fit a gtr 33 as only 240sx and q45 are stated?
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i know the nissan ones are the same part number, but will it fit a gtr 33 as only 240sx and q45 are stated?
Need to know this as well as i need to swap my fuel pump out asap! Im assuming you can just remove the filter and tubing from the bottom of the standard pump and attach it to the new one?
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i know the nissan ones are the same part number, but will it fit a gtr 33 as only 240sx and q45 are stated?
well i ordered that set since armt350 said that he used the "generic" nissan kit


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I'm running a single DW on my R33 GTR and used the "generic" nissan kit from DW feeding 740CC injectors. Put down 539 to the wheels. It came with near everything I needed to mount it. i just used some extra rubber fuel hose to insulate the pump housing from the metal clamp.
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well i ordered that set since armt350 said that he used the "generic" nissan kit
What a *****, i completely missed that post lol . Will order that as well. Where did you order it from for UK buyers?

Is this the one to buy?

http://www.part-box.com/deatschwerks...5-p-39602.html
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I bought mine through horsepowerfreaks from the states, and if I remember correctly it was the 240sx one, although my invoice has "nissan generic" listed on it.
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I bought mine through horsepowerfreaks from the states, and if i remember correctly it was the 240sx one, although my invoice has "nissan generic"
Niceone thanks mate, ill get the one i posted as its the same one
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decided to order the Deatschwerks fuel pump, hope it lives up to my hopes(to be able to support ~750 whp on gasoline )
Great! looks like a Great pump.
Let us know how the install goes - So I can order mine
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What a *****, i completely missed that post lol . Will order that as well. Where did you order it from for UK buyers?

Is this the one to buy?

Deatschwerks High Flow Fuel Pump for Nissan (240sx, Q45) - PartBox Online
i ordered mine straight from the Deatschwerks site, and ordered the "generic" nissan one (9-0766) , but im in Iceland btw

DeatschWerks.com | 300+ LPH High Flow In-Tank Fuel Pump | Fuel Pumps | DeatschWerks
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