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tonigmr2 29th October 2011 12:14 PM

So much for underseal/restoration project
 
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Paid 400 only 18 months ago to have the entire underside of my GTR undersealed.

Had it up on a lift yesterday. Half the underseal has disappeared.:chairshot
Not impressed!! How long is this stuff supposed to last? Going by the bit where it's fallen off, it's not a recent thing either.

So need to spend a bit of cash on getting the underside pretty and to find another place to do it again.

Anybody suggest a good place to spend about 2K getting the underside of the car pretty again?

Mookistar 29th October 2011 12:15 PM

Robbie at Valet Machine is going to underseal mine, hes done a few on here, dunno if anyone has any pics?

mook

tonigmr2 29th October 2011 12:23 PM

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What I want is all the brackets etc. removed, galvanised, and the entire floor cleaned and resealed. Stainless bolts (and I've got a stainless kit for the diffuser on the rear). I want to completely renew it.

Luckily no serious rust, but the bit that hasn't been covered has started to suffer, so it does need doing. I don't even drive the damn thing in the winter, so annoying!

Mookistar 29th October 2011 12:28 PM

Do it yourself ya lazy mare ;)

(see clive S-P thread)

mook

tonigmr2 29th October 2011 12:37 PM

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Mook some weeks I don't have enough time to go to the toilet!!!:chairshot
I've absolutely no time to clean the car some weekends goddammit!

lightspeed 29th October 2011 06:32 PM

Give fourtoes a shout

rockabilly 29th October 2011 06:45 PM

the only way is to strip and paint. why do you think manufacturers dont paint the top side in underseal. a, its the wrong colour lol and b, it comes off. i painted mine in 2003 and have just tidied it up .still looke very good. done this with all my cars..

kannibal 29th October 2011 06:52 PM

never fix a normal steel part with stainless steel screw or nut

fast rust will appear on normal steel.

RadoGTST 29th October 2011 06:56 PM

So how about that POR15 stuff?
As far as I remember after hardening it's like an epoxy shell, possible to chip it but should stay in place

GOGS 2 29th October 2011 07:28 PM

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i got my car undersealed about 3 years ago when i first got my car and the underseal is nearly all still there it must have been shit underseal or a very thin coating

MIKEGTR 29th October 2011 07:57 PM

My local paint shop quoted me 90 for the cheap stuff or 180 using top end sealer

Steveline 29th October 2011 09:00 PM

Toni, unfortunately this sounds like a very familiar story!!! :(

You have the right idea, the 34 has so many brackets, hangers, support bars, etc. etc. to do it properly everything really needs to be striped of and then all the old crapy tar like under-seal, that will have been half heartedly slapped on for 400 quid, removed, the metal then needs to be treated, and then base coated, and top coated! And the only product to use is POR15, anything less is a waste of time!! Some of the Dintrol products are useful for spraying inside the box sections, and perhaps to cover the high impact areas, wheel arches, etc. But POR 15 first!

I know you hate FB (me too actually!) but if you would like a recommendation PM or email me and ill send you a link you can view as a guest!

Steve

matty32 30th October 2011 12:37 PM

who did the underseal, take it back

tonigmr2 31st October 2011 01:34 PM

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Steveline, do send me a guest view I'm sure it'll be interesting.

Don't think I will take it back, I don't want the same guys on the car again if they can't do the job properly the first time.

I've had a few PMs and recommendations, will take time to think about what to do.

fourtoes 31st October 2011 09:36 PM

Hey Toni just got back from a week in lovely Turkey and my attention was drawn to this. Drop me a pm if you want me to have a look at your 34 for you?
Cheers
;)
Bob

tonigmr2 16th December 2011 05:37 PM

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OK guys, after much thought I decided to give the car to Rogue Motorsport in Coventry, ordinarily they work on all my MR2s but I have a lot of faith in them as an outfit and they were very keen to do a GTR.

I'll update as appropriate, but suffice to say things are looking like they need a hell of a lot of work under there.:runaway: Currently we are deciding wether to remove the subframes and suspension and do the job properly!!! God it's a nightmare and I've had to keep hold of all play money as I'm not sure what it's going to cost yet.

I also need to replace some parts, I'll be putting up pictures in wanted to see if anyone has some good condition ones kicking around. Otherwise it'll be new Nissan.:bawling:

Almost certain I'll need to replace the exhaust too...it's on the point of giving up.

One other thing, you'll never believe this but some muppet in the past has drilled through my floor and fixed some pipework to the car with a normal bolt and now we've got to strip the inside of the car to get it out as it is just spinning. Arrgh!

I'll put up some photos shortly, but UK GTRs, be very afraid!! Even though my strut tops are clean there's a hell of a lot of attention needed underneath.

fourtoes 16th December 2011 05:52 PM

If your going to do it do it right I sa Toni!!!
Be interested to hear how much they charge you for the whole job.
;)
Bob

tonigmr2 16th December 2011 06:38 PM

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I am sure it won't be cheap, but as I say I know them! I can also see the car on a four poster and break out into a sweat in person, LOL.

MS33 16th December 2011 07:42 PM

I've just done mine, stripped back to metal Kurust just to make sure any surface rust remaining is treated, 2 coats of anti-rust primer, a coat of hammerite and then undersealed.

Should be good for yrs. :D

tonigmr2 19th December 2011 01:47 PM

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Well I got the photos today. I'll post some up laters.
T


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