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Old 4th March 2012, 02:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Baby Seat 9 months - 3 years

Okay recently on here I trawled through threads regarding baby seats into the GT-R.

I got given some good advise and suggestions and went down to Kiddicare today as they had the specialists in who wanted to test the various seats into the GT-R.

I arrived at 11am and finally got away at 2pm so 3 hours of putting various seats in (17 in total) to see what was deemed safe and unsafe thats once it got past the stage of actually fitting the car.

Firstly many seats would sit to high, others the bases to wide, generally anything with an ISOFIX base just wasn't going to work unless you used the telescopic extra thats mounted behind the headrest.

I tried some of the ones people on here are using and unless you pack behind the seat with something like polystyrene then it's not safe on the 'rebound' as they call it on testing.

Other ones like the Recaro Young Expert Plus do almost perfect fit, appear to be fine and to be honest if I bought and fitted it I'd have thought it was fine.

However the Recaro chap there today said 'No No!' reason being the seat belt bucket sits level with the stress point of the seat and on an impact crash because of how it sits this would crack, the seat would then become free and literally be chucked around as if the seat belt was unfastened. (for additional reference the same seat with the ISOFIX base sits to high).

Anyway in the end it was deemed from all the seats tested the only one that was a perfect fit for support was the
Maxi Cosi Tobi Seat.

That was the only one from 17 we tried that met all the criteria for not putting any stress points of the base at risk, sitting flush with the back of the seat, bottom and sides.

Also the recline function works fine within the limits and it allows plenty of leg room (even with the seat in-front at the must back position).

I know others have made seats work / fit with moving bolts, the buckle or packing behind or under the seat but I wanted one that was deemed safe out the box literally straight in now messing around having to change anything.

Really pleased with it and the little one seemed happy enough!

Kiddicare kindly recorded each seat they tested with the issues of those tested and are going to provide me with the findings which I'll then post up so people can see what the experts thoughts are.

Was quite amusing having 6 people individually testing the car and a few of them over 6ft 2" struggling around in the back of the GT-R.

Snap of the seat in my car, poor picture but believe it or now it's hammering it down with snow here so just quickly took the one.



Big respect to Kiddicare for all the time and efforts I even had a hefty discount on price after it all even though I felt they were doing me the favor.

Sorry for the long read, just hope it might be of reference to some parents in the future to save them the hassle I had.
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Old 4th March 2012, 07:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 4th March 2012, 09:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You'll find you may have to move the front seat forward soon. Doesn't take long before their feet touch the back of the seat.
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Old 4th March 2012, 09:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Very helpful review - thanks
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Old 5th March 2012, 02:56 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Kiddie care rock, got all my baby seat and pusch chair from them . Great customer service
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im now looking at the next size up! my boy is fast approaching 15kg to move up to next class! any one got any experience / advice with this size?
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I too am using the Maxicosi Toby. Guess I got lucky as that was the one I had. I did a quick test fit for the Ricaro Monza for once the child is bigger, and that seemed to fit as well.
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I have the recaro monza, but I'm more concerned that what might seemingly fit might be no good to the trained eye.
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Old 5th March 2012, 09:31 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I have the Recaro Young Sport, but it only goes in the front passenger seat.
Went for that as it goes from 9 months to 12 years.
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Old 5th March 2012, 10:45 AM   #11 (permalink)
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CT17, can you turn the airbag off?
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Old 5th March 2012, 12:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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CT17, can you turn the airbag off?
Why would you?
It's a front facing child seat, not rear facing. From 9 months...
The airbag law is for rear facing.
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Check out the cdc suggestions. Its not about the law its about safety recommendations.

They advise you to turn off airbags for any children not big enough to sit directly on the seat because the impact with the airbag does more harm than good. As a result they recommend sitting children in the back where possible as without an airbag it's better to be further from the collision.

I know it's american but it's still backed by research.

http://www.cdc.gov/Features/PassengerSafety/
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A valid point.
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Hope you don't think i'm preaching. I argued with my wife till i was blue in the face that the front eas just as safe due to the airbag.

I jas to eat sone serious humble pie when every web link she foubd confirmed that she was right. It doesnt mean that there aren't occasions when the front is safer, but statistically the back is more likely to be safer.
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No, I don't think you are preaching.

My son (2.7 years) loves to sit in the GT-R, press the starter button to make that noise and ride around getting a good view.

If he is going to be stuck in the back, I may as well stick him in the Yeti.

But we quite like our Sunday morning drives together in the GT-R.
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I have a 3 year old son. I'd love to take him out in the front seat of the car.

I am sure it is fine if you can turn the airbag off.

I wouldn't risk it without, but if you do, make sure the seat is as far back as it goes to get him as clear of the airbag as possible in the event that the worst happens.
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Working for an unnamed car seat manufacturer, the advice is back is best where possible. Turning off the front airbag is OK, but I dont think any manufacturer would ever give you a supporting letter to say they can guarantee the airbag wouldnt go off in the event of a collision (god forbid).
As above if you do make sure seat is as far back as possible.
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Can I ask a question here, why is the seat forward facing ? Here in Sweden up until the age of 4 (I think it is) or whenever the child doesn't fit anymore, all child seats MUST be rear facing. Apparently it's to do with the childs neck not being strong enough in the event of an accident, Statistics here have said that your child has got a much higher survival rate when rear facing.

I must admit when I moved here I was surprised at the law but after living here for six years now I am totally with them. When we came over to England to visit family last year, my wife was soooo pi55ed off when the car rental at the airport didn't have rear facing for our 3 year old !!
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Once you get over about 9 months here they are (nearly?) all forward facing seats.

Interesting you have older ones that face backwards.
But how does the child fit in?
At 2.7 years old I can't see how my son would fit in a rear facing seat. Where would his legs go?
Or do they sit with knees under chin?
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