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Old 8th May 2012, 01:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Driving in france

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I am going to Monte Carlo at the end of the month and I have been told that I need a High-Viz for myself and a passenger, a bulb kit and a warning triangle.

Does anyone know of a bulb kit (without the stealer price / GTR tax) that is readily available. I have seen cheap kits on eBay but of course they don't list the R35.

Are the x-trail, Almera or any similar kit correct for our R35?

Does anyone have the correct bulb list? I might use this to "go LED" in the future also.

I have the other items sorted.

Also I have a radar/laser detector fitted and have read on here that the French Rozzers go apesh1t if they catch you with it. Is this true? Is it worth the risk?

Any and all advice welcome.

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Old 8th May 2012, 01:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 8th May 2012, 02:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Having just returned from the GTROC European Trip I may be able to supply some answers. Some of my experiences have been in the last 3 years.

1. Hi Viz jacket a good idea as ours were used on more than one occasion, would also be useful in UK
2. Warning triangle as above
3. Bulb kit - to get a kit for a GTR would be ridiculous, so most of us just ticked the box and got a £5.95 Halfords universal bulb kit. I know none of them would work but they won't know that.
4. We we quite cautious about this, as I had removed the Road Angel but TomTom still has alerts as does the Nissan navigation. The French Police will not do anything about those. However if you get pinged by radar/ laser and they get a dodgy result, you will be pulled over and you will be heavily fined with the offending detectors ripped out of the car irrespective of any damage. It will not be returned and the fines are very high.
5. Overall, be very careful of excess speed as they are very vigilant and can confiscate the car if going very fast, make you appear in court after a night in the cells and rape you of vast sums of money and finally ban you (some of this from bitter experience).

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Gents.
I am going to Monte Carlo at the end of the month and I have been told that I need a High-Viz for myself and a pasenger, a bulb kit and a warning triangle.

Does anyone know of a bulb kit (without the stealer price / GTR tax) that is readily available. I have seen cheap kits on eBay but of course they don't list the R35.

Are the x-trail, Almera or any similar kit correct for our R35?

Does anyone have the correct bulb list? I might use this to "go LED" in the future also.

I have the other items sorted.

Also I have a radar/laser detector fitted and have read on here that the French Rozzers go apesh1t if they catch you with it. Is this true? Is it worth the risk?

Any and all advice welcome.

Thanks and Regards
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Old 8th May 2012, 03:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The laws in France have changed this year and technically even TomTom camera alerts are now illegal. I don't know how the gendarmes would check this, but it's always been the case that even having a radar detector in your luggage was illegal (even though they're legal in surrounding countries!) and they had the right to remove and destroy them even if not plugged in as well as fining you for possession.

Also new this year is the requirement to carry a breathalyser, e.g. one of those electronic ones or a disposable one-use one.

Ridiculous, but true.

In my experience though, they mainly just stop you for made-up speeding fines that vary according to how vehemently you protest your true speed and are never backed up with actual speed readings.
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The HI Viz vests need to be in the cabin somewhere so that you can get out of the car with it on - not tucked away in the boot needing a 5 minute search for it.

It also goes without saying , all your vehicle documents or copies and your driving licence.

I was spotted at a toll booth and as fast as I could try and get the money in the plod was marching / running over to me from the car park in order to pull me. He signalled for me to pull over but all he wanted was to look at the car. He asked for my licence ( hence the above ) but never even looked at it. I was then instructed to leave under full throttle
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I am going to Monte Carlo also at the end of the month for the Grand Prix. I have the Laser Interceptors fitted to my car and after chatting to Andy (CC) I decided not to remove them before the trip as they aren't radar detectors. John/David, in your experience what are the chances of getting stopped if you stick to the speed limit down through France?
Also, is the included Nissan 3 year European RAC cover sufficient in your opinion?
Sorry to thread hijack Satan.

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David is correct, they may stop you just because you are in a GTR. If they say you were doing 145kph then that is what you will be booked for. Do not ask for proof as I did, just accept the fine.

A friend of mine was recently pulled over because they had received an obscure reading, and they then discovered the Laser Interceptor fitted. The rest is history.

Being in a GTR, you are already red rag to a bull.
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David is correct, they may stop you just because you are in a GTR. If they say you were doing 145kph then that is what you will be booked for. Do not ask for proof as I did, just accept the fine.

A friend of mine was recently pulled over because they had received an obscure reading, and they then discovered the Laser Interceptor fitted. The rest is history.

Being in a GTR, you are already red rag to a bull.
Jesus! Looks like I'll be removing them then for the trip as it's not worth the hassle. Thanks for the info John, much appreciated.
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leave the Hi-viz so it's visible from the outside (parcel shelf, back of seat) it gives them one less reason to pull you over.
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or better still wear it in the car, lol

saw a couple doing this in France last year; funny
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The laws in France have changed this year and technically even TomTom camera alerts are now illegal. I don't know how the gendarmes would check this, but it's always been the case that even having a radar detector in your luggage was illegal (even though they're legal in surrounding countries!) and they had the right to remove and destroy them even if not plugged in as well as fining you for possession.

Also new this year is the requirement to carry a breathalyser, e.g. one of those electronic ones or a disposable one-use one.

Ridiculous, but true.

In my experience though, they mainly just stop you for made-up speeding fines that vary according to how vehemently you protest your true speed and are never backed up with actual speed readings.
Breathalyser comes into force in July I believe. So we should be ok for Le Mans.

Hi viz, bulbs and triangle can be bought in supermarkets for a couple of quid. Mine have never left their wrappers.

Lady year we were speed for a headlight inspection to ensure we has the lhd blinkers on. Of course if you actually want to see anything at night you might want to remove them. It's nice to know the safety measures make your journey considerably more dangerous.

Finally copies of your insurance and v5 can be helpful. I don't take the originals just in case and have not had any closings about the copies.
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David is correct, they may stop you just because you are in a GTR. If they say you were doing 145kph then that is what you will be booked for. Do not ask for proof as I did, just accept the fine.

A friend of mine was recently pulled over because they had received an obscure reading, and they then discovered the Laser Interceptor fitted. The rest is history.

Being in a GTR, you are already red rag to a bull.
What, they killed him?!
Seriously what was the penalty for the Laser Interceptor? Worse than that for a radar detector?

I must admit, part of the reason I haven't installed my LI kit (that I bought over 2 years ago!) is I travel through France a couple of times a year on the way to Spa or the Nurburgring.
Although one route takes you out of France and into Belgium very quickly, but is it worth the risk?

How easy is it to remove the laser heads?
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What, they killed him?!
How easy is it to remove the laser heads?
Not that difficult but the ends of the cables have a crimped connector which I don't think will fit through the bulkhead grommet. The ends will need cut off and re-crimped when re-installing. It's a shame the heads themselves won't fit through the front grill as they could be hidden in the engine bay temporarily.
LI have a new feature whereby it can wipe the program at the flick of a switch but it looks like the Gendarmes wouldn't care if it was working or not.

Any thoughts on the Nissan 3 year RAC cover? Is it sufficient?
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Take the kit out, or take garlic butter as a lubricant

Nurburgringgtr - I look forward to our convoy thru France next week
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We are only in France a short time and my theory is the quicker we reach Belgium border the better. You lead and I will shadow you!

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Off to the Ring? Yeah that route only involves about half an hour of France.

So what was the penalty for your mate caught with an LI?
I'm guessing protesting it is only a parking sensor with the laser jamming software wiped won't wash with a cash-hungry gendarme.

Likewise Stinger allows all radar/laser functions to be wiped by the press of a button, but with the French, I can't see it making much difference.
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Re: the TomTom issue, if you do the latest update it will automatically wipe all the camera locations in France, never to be seen again. If you're still running the old TT version then you can uncheck the appropriate box I think, otherwise it's greyed out.
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Re: the TomTom issue, if you do the latest update it will automatically wipe all the camera locations in France, never to be seen again. If you're still running the old TT version then you can uncheck the appropriate box I think, otherwise it's greyed out.
Yeah I had that sinking feeling when I applied the update. They should warn you that's going to happen to give people the option to not update the French map.
It's such a blatant statement that the cameras are only there to raise revenue, not highlight accident blackspots.

It's only going to get worse now they've got a socialist in charge...
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Yeah I had that sinking feeling when I applied the update. They should warn you that's going to happen to give people the option to not update the French map.
It's such a blatant statement that the cameras are only there to raise revenue, not highlight accident blackspots.

It's only going to get worse now they've got a socialist in charge...
Yep, Merde.
My mate found out first and told me so I haven't updated mine, you're welcome to borrow it on the understanding that you hide it well, when pulled by the cheese eating surrender monkeys!
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