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Old 11th May 2012, 02:02 PM   #101 (permalink)
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if a bbc news presenter said pacific I would write in and complain. That's shocking.

It made me laugh when someone corrected me when I correctly used the term "you and me". It's another annoying one where people assume it should always be corrected to "you and I" regardless of the case.

There's quite a few of these, it's and its, and my other major gripe is "different to".

These really big me,but as I said, you just have to accept that it's the way the country has gone.

It pains me that you can go on Nagtroc and you get nothing like the low standard of grammar.
Hear, hear (here, here?).

Pacific/specific is a classic malapropism.

And "me" - don't get me started. Why do people seem to think you should never say "me" or "you" for that matter, as if its somehow discourteous. Shortly after I started my career, I had the misfortune to work with a colleague who caught a bad dose of this disease. He sat across the desk from me dictating a letter and (honestly!), he started one sentence with "It is the feeling of myself...."

Try "I feel" or "I think" you tit.
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Honestly listen to the news (and lots of other programmes for that matter!). The amount of times specific*ally is pacifically or pacific drives me mental. I am not usually that fussy, but for some reason that really grates!
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Bring back capital punishment! Effing hate that shtweet accent crap.
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Honestly listen to the news (and lots of other programmes for that matter!). The amount of time specific*ally is pacifically or pacific is used drives me mental. I am not usually that fussy, but for some reason that really grates!
Exactly - it often comes from unlikely sources.
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Is this car £160k overpriced? 2009 GTR, worth what, £40k? So the buyer would be paying a premium of £220k for the modification work.

How much does the alpha 12 package cost? Well there doesn't appear to be any online prices for the Alpha 12 package but there is a price for the Alpha 10 package that promises 1200bhp and a 9.1sec 1/4m... Costs $64,000 (£49k)...- Alpha 10 Package- Alpha Series by AMSPerformance | Premium Nissan GT-R Performance Upgrade Packages -

That would be £40k for the car, £49k for the 1200bhp package and then say another £10k max in labour charges. That's £100k right there to get to probably very similar performance as the ''hulk''

As it is a 2nd hand conversion already done, even £100k is pushing it. More like £80-90k value in my opinion. £260k is hilarious and pie in the sky. I think someone has counted up how much it has cost them over the years and then priced it the same.

Car modding doesn't work like that guys ;-)

£100k you may have interest, £260k, well, Jesus Christ, you must be hoping for a thick as mince Manchester City football player to come along and write that cheque.
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Is this car £160k overpriced? 2009 GTR, worth what, £40k? So the buyer would be paying a premium of £220k for the modification work.

How much does the alpha 12 package cost? Well there doesn't appear to be any online prices for the Alpha 12 package but there is a price for the Alpha 10 package that promises 1200bhp and a 9.1sec 1/4m... Costs $64,000 (£49k)...- Alpha 10 Package- Alpha Series by AMSPerformance | Premium Nissan GT-R Performance Upgrade Packages -

That would be £40k for the car, £49k for the 1200bhp package and then say another £10k max in labour charges. That's £100k right there to get to probably very similar performance as the ''hulk''

As it is a 2nd hand conversion already done, even £100k is pushing it. More like £80-90k value in my opinion. £260k is hilarious and pie in the sky. I think someone has counted up how much it has cost them over the years and then priced it the same.

Car modding doesn't work like that guys ;-)

£100k you may have interest, £260k, well, Jesus Christ, you must be hoping for a thick as mince Manchester City football player to come along and write that cheque.

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Think the Alpha 12 is in the region of around $90k (ish).
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Im going to slap you when I see you.

I just not a fan of all this "hey look at my impressive technology" Yes it is an impressive car but just not for me. I like it raw and old school. And to not sell my sole to buy a part, its bad enough already.

So they will build you a car for 200k oh well as ive said GLWTS
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"Raw and old school"

In what was probably in the top 5 most technically advanced cars of its time when new, that utilizes technology to drive the way it does and we all used to bemoan the huge tax imposed for any tuning parts. Comment made me chuckle mate !! lol

Im as big a hater on the recent influx of fad 35 owners as anyone - hence why I almost never post here anymore and realised my views were harming this forums popularity and new "customer base" that it was chasing heavily and as such I have always respected Cem and the Clubs wishes and bowed out so to speak.

For me the old vs new argument is simple - very few people had heard of the GTR until Gran Tourismo, so owners usually SOUGHT OUT the car and the forum. With the new GTR the car was so hyped by mags, tv and everything else and globally marketted it was effectively aimed at a different set of owners and wasnt something that required knowledge or anything other than a decent sized wallet in order to purchase (although to be fair the new car was significantly cheaper than the 33 or 34 was with inflation allowed for). So that lack of knowledge and respect coupled with all the newboys thinking they were the shit cos they have something worth more than say a 33 was in the current marketplace basically made myself and alot of old owners wash our hands of the new car and its ownerbase.

That being said I would have probably had one by now if my financial situation hadnt of changed purely because I love the car, not Nissan and certainly not the cityfags who have been buying them in droves to impress or "beat" their Ferrari owning chums.

As for "The Hulk" then I think its totally taking the piss price wize and looks pretty aweful to boot. Maybe worth 80-10k assuming SVM actually know what they are doing with regards to GTR's

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aks is something of a shiboleth, it annoyed me but from what I can tell it is indicative of black culture and is nothing to do with nationality.

Mick,

Myself is the one I hate the most. Completely overused and hardly ever correct.

If we are getting on our high horses, I have a gripe with firstly, secondly etc. these are just Americanisms, resulting from the fact that they have to apply a general "add -ly to create an adverb" rule.
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The one that gets me is when people say 'can I ask you a question?'.

Didn't give me much of a choice there lol
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I do like the way that those above complaining about the new GTR owners not being true enthusiasts don't seem to be members of the gtroc.

Got to say I really don't appreciate the R34 anymore. I used to love it and hanker after one. I remember when Cem first laid eyes on one and then went with him a few weeks later to meet the selling owner of his first one in a petrol station somewhere in the middle of the night. This was before this website even existed!

The car was great - it was rare - it was capable, had awesome tuning potential and sounded glorious (unlike the R35) but to shun the new car because it doesn't say skyline smacks of stupidity to me. Don't dismiss a car because it's popular with a different type of owner. That's not the car's fault.

Judge it on what it can do - because as far as I can tell it can pretty much do everything it was designed to do better than anything else out there. Credit where it's due.
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I'm bored of the whole" R35 owners aren't enthusiasts" argument. It's so 2009.

Like The early Skyline owners didn't do Chequebook tuning at Abbey FFS

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LOL

And just to say, the AMS tuning package might sort out the engine. But there's more to a car than the power it puts out. I would expect the Hulk has undergone major chassis work too, it ain't cheap folks.

At the end of the day they can charge what the hell they want. It's nobodys business but their own. Like any car seller can. It's worth what anyone might be happy to pay. Maybe people want a physical car, maybe they want a famous one and ongoing tuning as a package. Either way good luck SVM!

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I dont currently own a GTR so I dont feel I should be in the owners club.

When I did I was.

LOL @ Mook, at some point we are ALL chequebook tuning

Loving the pedantism going on in this thread though, really warms my cockles !!

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When I did I was.

LOL @ Mook, at some point we are ALL chequebook tuning

Loving the pedantism going on in this thread though, really warms my cockles !!

Shouldn't that be Cockles?
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