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Old 29th July 2013, 04:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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opinions on vinyl wrap

Just wondering what peoples thoughts are regarding vinyl wrap and what experience brings you to your thought's on it.
I haven't had a car wrapped but was very interested in having my gtr wrapped. But after seeing the quality of some cars that had been vinyl wrapped, including gtr's. I was very disappointed with the quality and attention to detail. Cuts/slice visible in vinyl, bits under vinyl, bubbles, original colour on view, bits patched in. I was like wtf. I could understand if it was a few hundred to have a wrap but when its a few grand I assumed it would be pretty much faultless.
Now I don't know if I am just fussy or what but I expect better. This was from various different wrappers as well, some with a good reputation others I hadn't heard of.
Also did anyone have a issue from parking in the public car park ? One of the wrappers put a printed advert under my windscreen wiper. After the rain it had stuck the bloody thinh to the windscreen. The ink was a biatch to get off.
Anyway my thoughts are. Over priced and poor quality. But look good from a distance and on pics.
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I think close up, even the best are in my opinion disappointing. That's due to the material, rather than the quality of installation.

If you are concerned about installation quality, just look at one of the many Pwpro wrap threads. I don't think you'll find better quality than that, with none of the issues you mention.
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I think close up, even the best are in my opinion disappointing. That's due to the material, rather than the quality of installation.

If you are concerned about installation quality, just look at one of the many Pwpro wrap threads. I don't think you'll find better quality than that, with none of the issues you mention.
Tbh it is one of the cars on here that made me post asking peoples opinions. I looked around a couple of GTR's at totb and I was shocked. The few things I mentioned was only a few things and tbh there was alot more but didn't want to mention as I wouldn't want to publicly slag off someone's pride and joy or another person's business.
I just know I will stick to paint on my gtr lol
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Old 29th July 2013, 05:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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same hear would be worried about resale value as-well

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my opinion, i also looked into wrapping didnt think it was for me, i have looked at loads of cars and decided i will pay the extra for paint. im sure some are very happy with thier cars wrapped.
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Just wondering what peoples thoughts are regarding vinyl wrap and what experience brings you to your thought's on it.
I haven't had a car wrapped but was very interested in having my gtr wrapped. But after seeing the quality of some cars that had been vinyl wrapped, including gtr's. I was very disappointed with the quality and attention to detail. Cuts/slice visible in vinyl, bits under vinyl, bubbles, original colour on view, bits patched in. I was like wtf. I could understand if it was a few hundred to have a wrap but when its a few grand I assumed it would be pretty much faultless.
Now I don't know if I am just fussy or what but I expect better. This was from various different wrappers as well, some with a good reputation others I hadn't heard of.
Also did anyone have a issue from parking in the public car park ? One of the wrappers put a printed advert under my windscreen wiper. After the rain it had stuck the bloody thinh to the windscreen. The ink was a biatch to get off.
Anyway my thoughts are. Over priced and poor quality. But look good from a distance and on pics.
i think the biggest mistake people make is comparing a wrap to paint

there isnt a comparison to make or shouldnt be as the two are completely different disciplines and processes

with a wrap there will always be seems or joins its unavoidable as your dealing with a piece of flat material that is heated and stretched to conform to the cars panels not blown media that will land everywhere perfectly (some of the time lol)

if the recess is to deep you will overstretch the material and it will fail and come loose so it must be done sectionally

you must also consider the cars state prior to wrap if its peppered with stone chips or dinted these will show through the wrap and often misinterpreted as an issue with the wrap when in truth the issue is with the painted surface beneath



something i noticed at totb yesterday and to be fair at most shows is that unlike when a car is painted where people will stand back and take in the cars appearance as a whole from a small distance with a wrap people are hell bent on trying to find fault

i witnessed people around marats yellow / black gtr done recently literally down on their hands and knees inches from the panels scrutinising every inch

leaning over the wings and rear quarters in an attempt to find a seam or something they could pick fault with

in my opinion completely disrespectful and would never ever be witnessed had the car have been painted

i think the long and the short of it is yes with a wrap you will see joins and you will see things that perhaps you dont understand why it would be that way but its not permanent and in most cases has been done to protect the cars underlying substrate or to allow wild styling that if painted would completely destroy a cars value
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Old 29th July 2013, 07:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Completely agree with Paul here, and not from some hugely biased point of view.

When people see my car they always comment on how good it looks and how great the finish is on it. Then when i tell them its a wrap they get up close and even start brushing hands around panels and lights etc. trying to find a fault.

One reason i love the wrap is that it PROTECTS my paintwork in case of resale as well as making the car unique. I hate having to worry every time i come out and see a bird has crapped on my car, wondering how long it has been there and whether its damaged the paint. I park the car on the road so it's a big factor for me.

Really happy with my wrap, and the effort Paul goes to in order to ensure the fit is as best as can be is way above what i would expect for the cost!

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I was one of the people taking a close look at at the yellow GTR as my red one was parked next to it, but I was not doing it to pick faults I was just admiring how good it was. The bright yellow colour is a bit much for me but i would consider a wrap in the future after seeing this on.
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Paul's doing mine soon and my primary (85%) reason for the wrap is to protect the paintwork. As much as i love polishing the car etc i worry about the paint from chips and bird crap every time its out of the garage and i think i will use the car more post wrap and actually enjoy it more. When i'm ready i can take it off and have great original paintwork underneath or if i fancy another colour change can just swap it out.
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Paul's doing mine soon and my primary (85%) reason for the wrap is to protect the paintwork. As much as i love polishing the car etc i worry about the paint from chips and bird crap every time its out of the garage and i think i will use the car more post wrap and actually enjoy it more. When i'm ready i can take it off and have great original paintwork underneath or if i fancy another colour change can just swap it out.
+1 on the protection front. Bird shit is the bain of my life. forever going out to get rid of it! But i love the depth of colour you get with the paint vs a wrap. Particularly with the pearlescent white on mine. It looks so gorgeous in the sun when it sparkles

What colour you going for mate or is it a secret?
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I've seen a fair number of cars that nice in pics, but when you get reasonably close are no where near as good as you expect.

Not going to go over my nightmare with Valet Magic again either.
Just make sure whoever is taking a knife to your paintwork has insurance.

Having spent a long time looking at wraps, I have to say that none are perfect.
But PW Pro do the best work I've seen.

Resale issues should not occur because nobody with any sense would buy a car as expensive as an R35 without checking the paintwork, meaning a full unwrap and detail prior to sale.
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yep just to reiterate whats been said above really.

I hate washing and polishing the car and with it being black its even more work looking after it and keeping birdcrap off so it does not ruin the paint.

pauls doing mine aswell very soon and he seems to be the best around so il travel to have the best job possible.

if you love detailing your car and have the time to keep on top of it then paint does look better with the deep shine but if like me you've not got the time or patience then a wrap surely is the answer and underneath you've still got your nice original paintwork which has been protected from the elements
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Paul's doing mine soon and my primary (85%) reason for the wrap is to protect the paintwork. As much as i love polishing the car etc i worry about the paint from chips and bird crap every time its out of the garage and i think i will use the car more post wrap and actually enjoy it more. When i'm ready i can take it off and have great original paintwork underneath or if i fancy another colour change can just swap it out.
What colour you going for Steve?..your paintwork is about the best i`ve seen,so you probably want to keep it that way
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Nothing that's not been done before for me.....going for matt black, some window tints and getting my wheels freshened up from some overly aggressive pad deposits. Paintwork on mine is still great and I want to keep it hat way so decided a wrap is a must.

Part of me wishes I was a bit more adventurous on the colour choice but its rapidly becoming a classic and I love it....excuse to buy some more detailing gear specific for matt finishes
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I absolutely agree with Paul 100% about people bending over backwards to pick faults with your wrap!!! I have the same all the time! The unfortunate thing is, that these 'fault finders' end up planting seeds in my head!!! My car looks fab in pictures, and from a metre or so away! When up close, all the little niggly bits really really bug me now!

I have no regrets, as I researched a fair bit into it and definately chose the right person to wrap my car. Unfortunately, the wrap is not holding together very well considering it is only 6 months old!!!!

I have the edges of the doors peeling, bubbles in the spoiler wrap, door handle trim a complete mess, wrap peeling away from the arches and other edges around the car!

I have mentioned this to the wrapper few months ago and he is only eager to help. I just haven't had the time to book it in and make the long journey there. Will be doing this very soon, as it now pains me to look at my car!

My real question is… am i expecting too much from my wrap? Is it fairly normal for these defects to occur? What defects have you had on your wrapped cars after a few months???
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My real question is am i expecting too much from my wrap? Is it fairly normal for these defects to occur? What defects have you had on your wrapped cars after a few months???
My yellow one is about five months old now and holding up very well.
My only two minor issues are stonechips (which can't be helped really) and some slight discolouring by the exhausts as this does show up on the yellow.

I've had no lifting, peeling or shrinking.

I know they say a wrap lasts two or three years, but in regular use I'd personally not expect more than a year out if it before needing a slight touch up on the front end, mainly due to the dark blue of my car showing through stone chips and tar/rubber marks from track days.
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Vinyl wrap is the automotive equivalent of artex. Reminds me of the 1980's and putting tiger stripes on RS turbos
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My yellow one is about five months old now and holding up very well.
My only two minor issues are stonechips (which can't be helped really) and some slight discolouring by the exhausts as this does show up on the yellow.

I've had no lifting, peeling or shrinking.

I know they say a wrap lasts two or three years, but in regular use I'd personally not expect more than a year out if it before needing a slight touch up on the front end, mainly due to the dark blue of my car showing through stone chips and tar/rubber marks from track days.
Fair point.

My bubble and lifting is really getting on my nerves now. Im probably making it sound a lot worse than it is. Better get back down to Nottingham to let the Pro work his magic again.

Do you think gloss vinyl will hold better than satin/matt?
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Fair point.

My bubble and lifting is really getting on my nerves now. Im probably making it sound a lot worse than it is. Better get back down to Nottingham to let the Pro work his magic again.

Do you think gloss vinyl will hold better than satin/matt?
which you should have done months ago and it would never have annoyed you
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Vinyl Wrap

I had mine done by Valet Magic and could not be happier. Robbie did a good job and provided excellent service.

As to the quality of a wrap over paint, for sure there is no real comparison as they are different materials however people don't believe it is a wrap until I tell them.

I also have a 2009 car which is red and decided to wrap it to protect the paintwork.

Material has something like a 10 year guarantee and VM guarantee the fitting of the wrap for something like 2-3 years.
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