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Old 23rd November 2013, 06:48 PM   #161 (permalink)
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Thank you John ,wise constructive comments ,from someone like yourself that has been there at the forefront off using a gtr on track and can fully appreciate how good the new nismo gtr looks , and as a passenger of yours round the ring in your gtr ,AND WHAT ALL YOU KNOW ALL KEY BOARD WARRIORS MAY NOT KNOW , there's no one on this forum ,who has spent more time on track than John in a R35 GTR and believe me the lad can drive and will fully appreciate how stunning the nismo gtr times are round the ring .
He shouldn't belittle other peoples opinions.

Yes, Ive pulled him up on it, and he didn't like it.

Dont give it out, if you cant take it back.
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Old 23rd November 2013, 07:14 PM   #162 (permalink)
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Old 23rd November 2013, 07:26 PM   #163 (permalink)
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flynn you seem to think that the fact i have two gtr ,i am making out to be some kind off expert ,i only mentioned the fact i have two gtrs ,in the context of being a gtr enthusiast ( fan boy in your words )NOT A EXPERT ,I NEVER SAID ,AND DO NOT BELIEVE IT MAKES ME MORE QUALIFIED THAN OTHER ON THE SUBJECT , you interpreted it that way ,as i interpreted your comments as insults .i sure you'll not leave it at that ,as your attitude is very argumentative, so in the interest of the thread and the harmony of the forum , i apologise to all other forum members for this thread going off at a tangent ,love and peace to all ,i off the play with me v8 gtr
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Im wondering what the MY14 will do to the residuals of the older CBA cars.....They seem to be holding
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Old 23rd November 2013, 07:58 PM   #165 (permalink)
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Im wondering what the MY14 will do to the residuals of the older CBA cars.....They seem to be holding
Not a lot if the to expected price of £78k is correct.

Figure in a £15k drop in year one, then £5k per year 2 and 3 and you are about where the MY11 is at 3 years old.

Later cars are holding up well, probably because they are (like it not for early owners) better cars and in shorter supply than the pre-DRL cars.
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Old 23rd November 2013, 08:53 PM   #166 (permalink)
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Later cars are holding up well, probably because they are (like it not for early owners) better cars and in shorter supply than the pre-DRL cars.
Actually, the cars that are holding their value the best are 09/10 cars. They have shifted very little over the past 2-3 years. I paid 40K for my MY10 over 2 years ago. Pretty sure I could get not far off that for it now. Of course the later cars are better - just not better enough IMO. Certainly not enough to make me upgrade. When people buy a GTR what they want first and foremost is a GTR. Anything above and beyond that (DRL's, slightly better interior, better suspension) is just a bonus.

As for the Nismo - said it ages ago and I will say it again. An exercise in marketing for a car that has dropped slightly out of the limelight over the past few years due to the fact that it is no longer the new hell raiser on the block and the later MY's have offered less and less and as a result have made less and less of an impact. A headline grabber - no more, no less.
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Actually, the cars that are holding their value the best are 09/10 cars. They have shifted very little over the past 2-3 years. I paid 40K for my MY10 over 2 years ago. Pretty sure I could get not far off that for it now. Of course the later cars are better - just not better enough IMO. Certainly not enough to make me upgrade. When people buy a GTR what they want first and foremost is a GTR. Anything above and beyond that (DRL's, slightly better interior, better suspension) is just a bonus.

As for the Nismo - said it ages ago and I will say it again. An exercise in marketing for a car that has dropped slightly out of the limelight over the past few years due to the fact that it is no longer the new hell raiser on the block and the later MY's have offered less and less and as a result have made less and less of an impact. A headline grabber - no more, no less.
Agreed on the cost of early cars to GT-R ownership, but I was specifically answering the question about early CBA ones.
They will always command a premium over pre-DRL cars IMO. Doubt the MY14 will effect them much.

Usually 5 year old cars are effected less when the new one comes out compared to 2 or 3 year old ones.
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Not a lot if the to expected price of £78k is correct.

Figure in a £15k drop in year one, then £5k per year 2 and 3 and you are about where the MY11 is at 3 years old.

Later cars are holding up well, probably because they are (like it not for early owners) better cars and in shorter supply than the pre-DRL cars.
Pre drl cars holing up extremely well
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Agreed on the cost of early cars to GT-R ownership, but I was specifically answering the question about early CBA ones.
They will always command a premium over pre-DRL cars IMO. Doubt the MY14 will effect them much.

Usually 5 year old cars are effected less when the new one comes out compared to 2 or 3 year old ones.
Yes, the GTR has had rather a strange progression with the significant price increase in the early years. Hard to believe the first cars were just over 50K brand new. Had the later cars been around that price I don't doubt the 09 cars would now be mid 20's. Still great news for us MY09/10 owners - never had a second hand car loose such little money.

Makes you wonder what the Nismo will loose in the first few years. In spite of the exclusivity factor I don't think it will be long before you can get one for under 100K - assuming the estimated price of 125K is correct.
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Yes, the GTR has had rather a strange progression with the significant price increase in the early years. Hard to believe the first cars were just over 50K brand new. Had the later cars been around that price I don't doubt the 09 cars would now be mid 20's. Still great news for us MY09/10 owners - never had a second hand car loose such little money.

Makes you wonder what the Nismo will loose in the first few years. In spite of the exclusivity factor I don't think it will be long before you can get one for under 100K - assuming the estimated price of 125K is correct.
It's the issue I have with selling mine as lost so little money...anything I buy will crap money...never had a car this long!
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Agreed on the cost of early cars to GT-R ownership, but I was specifically answering the question about early CBA ones.
They will always command a premium over pre-DRL cars IMO. Doubt the MY14 will effect them much.

Usually 5 year old cars are effected less when the new one comes out compared to 2 or 3 year old ones.
CBAs ARE the pre-DRL cars.

And yes, they've held their value the best percentage-wise because they were so much cheaper new. My 2009 Premium Edition was £53,490, helped by the fact VAT was only 15%.
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And yes, they've held their value the best percentage-wise because they were so much cheaper new. My 2009 Premium Edition was £53,490, helped by the fact VAT was only 15%.
Its astonishing that a decent one will still fetch £35k - a 35% drop in 4.5 years (although not surprising when you look at the choice of other vehicles in the £35k range)

The chap who works in the office next door bought a BMW 335d coupe new back in 2010 for £36k , it just needed it's first MOT and he asked the dealer for a trade in value against a new one. They told him £18k trade in - a 50% drop in 3 years.

It makes his 60mpg look a bit silly in the grand scheme of things
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And yes, they've held their value the best percentage-wise because they were so much cheaper new. My 2009 Premium Edition was £53,490, helped by the fact VAT was only 15%.
Well, you knew what I meant.
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I hope Nissan are reading this thread as I do not believe they have set the Nismo GT-R price yet.

They may bring out the standard one at a much lower price and then hike the Track Pack. There will have to be a differential between MY14 and Nismo, but perhaps they will look back in history reference the V Spec.
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Never saw more than 33mpg from my 335d. Seem to get crappy mileage from every car I've ever had. I blame it on the roads
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