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Old 29th January 2014, 09:41 AM   #61 (permalink)
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That's three for Richard now.

I'm being caught up, will have to buy another soon I guess.
Only if we don't count non-R35 GT-Rs.
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Old 29th January 2014, 09:46 AM   #62 (permalink)
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So who won the bet? How long did it take you get back into an R35
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Old 29th January 2014, 09:53 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Only if we don't count non-R35 GT-Rs.
of course we don't count Skylines, they are a different model of car.

You might as well count Ultima GTRs. Sod it you might as well count Mitsubishi Evos. (I had 5!).
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Old 29th January 2014, 09:54 AM   #64 (permalink)
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of course we don't count Skylines, they are a different model of car.

You might as well count Ultima GTRs. Sod it you might as well count Mitsubishi Evos. (I had 5!).
OK, you win!

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Old 29th January 2014, 10:00 AM   #65 (permalink)
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I find myself seriously tempted by a BAC mono for a track car.

People have commented that I've not taken my car on track, but the truth is that I don't think the GTR makes for a great track car. It's too heavy and heavy on fuel, tyres and brakes. I'm sure it's fun but is it £2000 in consumables more fun than a £20k caterham?

Rich, go for it!
A BAC mono is a fair bit more than a 20k caterham! Had a nosy around one at Spa-Francorchamps last time round, specs are similar to a gtr 0-60 in 2.7s, topend speed is less, but its extremely light, wouldn't want to hit any armco in that though!

I wouldn't say it costs 2k in consumables for a track day.. Depends how hard your prepared to drive.. (80%/90%?) Having a 2nd set of dedicated track wheels is a good, you should definately try the gtr out on track like silverstone, with the litchfield suspension & alcons it really really fun at what it can do and the biggest smile you get, especially if you can a half empty lap! Yes it can easily get through 1 tank fuel in 10-15 laps or so.. Very similar to porsche/ferraris imho.
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I appreciate the mono is way over 100 by the time you spec it. Stunning car though!

The question is if the smile from a GT-R on track is worth the extra money and wear and tear compared with a cheaper dedicated and more capable track car?

My wife won't let me have a bike (I tend to agree with her in all honesty), but I'm actually seriously considering running a superbike just for use on a track.

Sorry for thread hijack Richard, back on "track" now.
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Old 29th January 2014, 10:08 AM   #67 (permalink)
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aka "dog knob red" or dkr lol
it looks that way... , and if flynn buys one in Red it will be a fine day

the MY14 550bhp stock? sweeeeeeeeeet.

I wonder for how long they will be making the R35......

middlehursts - MY14 GT-R AVAILABLE FOR MARCH DELIVERY (2014) Prices start from £77,995.
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Engine configuration: 6 cylinder
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Orders are now being taken for the all new MY14 GT-R.

• Recalibrated suspension for more sophisticated ride and better road-holding

• Enhanced exterior with LED lamp technology and distinctive front and rear design

• Added premium cabin interior with improved quality and trim options

Prices start from £77,995.

If an order is placed before 1st February, metallic paint & 3 years servicing are free of charge.

If the order is placed AFTER 1st February, metallic paint is £850 and 3 years servicing is £599.

New Red & Ultimate Silver paint options £1750.

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Recaro seats are standard and are included in the price at £77,995.
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Old 29th January 2014, 10:29 AM   #68 (permalink)
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I appreciate the mono is way over 100 by the time you spec it. Stunning car though!

The question is if the smile from a GT-R on track is worth the extra money and wear and tear compared with a cheaper dedicated and more capable track car?

My wife won't let me have a bike (I tend to agree with her in all honesty), but I'm actually seriously considering running a superbike just for use on a track.

Sorry for thread hijack Richard, back on "track" now.
I do agree that the GTR is too heavy and too expensive on consumables to run as full-on track car. However, the only downside to the BAC, caterham, xbow and atom.... is the lack of windows, doors and cover from the rain and cold.

I remember laughing at the caterham drivers on a track day in December, which luckily had the sun out, but they still had to go out in full ski gear, whereas I got into the GTR, put on the heated seat, turned up the heater and slow pulled out of the pits.

In a warmer climate, definitely, but here.........
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I like that RED, the interior quality should be in the car from the off.

Not a 3.5K option
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Old 29th January 2014, 10:55 AM   #70 (permalink)
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I remember laughing at the caterham drivers on a track day in December, which luckily had the sun out, but they still had to go out in full ski gear, whereas I got into the GTR, put on the heated seat, turned up the heater and slow pulled out of the pits.

In a warmer climate, definitely, but here.........
That's a fair point and one that I hadn't considered!
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I like that RED, the interior quality should be in the car from the off.

Not a 3.5K option
I think the interior quality is the same in the front, it's the back seats that ruin things for me.

I'm having my rear side panels, centre cupholder and subwoofer cover retrimmed with consistent stitching to match the front. Hoping to pick that up today.

The retrimmer also has both halves of both rear seats and is copying my front recaros exactly to produce a replica in the rear of the front, including the recaro badging embroidery.

Once that's done I think the interior quality will be where it should have been from the factory. The upside being it will all be leather as opposed to the shocking use of vinyl as stock.
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Old 29th January 2014, 11:11 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Once that's done I think the interior quality will be where it should have been from the factory. The upside being it will all be leather as opposed to the shocking use of vinyl as stock.
Are you going to line the sides?

I noticed even on the premium MY14 that you still have the huge plastic panels there, which show up far more with the lighter trim options and nicer rear seats.
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Old 29th January 2014, 11:13 AM   #73 (permalink)
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the sides of the rear? if so, then yes, that's what I meant by the rear quarter panels. I'm not lining the C-pillar covers.
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Would like to see pics of that when it's done.
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I'm sure I can manage that. In the meantime, Ifty had his rear side panels, rear centre console and subwoofer cover trimmed in vinyl with stitching done. Looks great though I wasn't keen on the use of vinyl and the lack of stitching continuity in the rear centre arm rest/cupholder.







or there's Carl's Middlehurst Alcanatara retrim which gives you an idea of what I'm going to be doing except that I'm using leather throughout and matching the perforations in the back too.


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That's a fair point and one that I hadn't considered!
I have always wanted a caterham/atom/xbow/radical - would love a mono (but too pricey), but when I saw this at Silverstone, I put it on hold. Have driven a race spec caterham around a track in SA and it was awesome, sun shining, great weather empty track, what more could you ask for
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I'm being caught up, will have to buy another soon I guess.
Nismo time
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Pretty sure that short of the R36, there's no point me starting again with another GT-R.

As stated previously, the only current car that really tempts me is prob the mp4-12c spyder. When the next model R8 comes out I'll be giving that very serious consideration but I can't imagine getting rid of the current GT-R for any of the above. Of course that will change. I am acutely aware of how much money I'd lose and that's if there's even any prospect of finding a buyer for mine.

Anyway, Richard's MY14..... (so sorry Richard)
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Pretty sure that short of the R36, there's no point me starting again with another GT-R.

As stated previously, the only current car that really tempts me is prob the mp4-12c spyder. When the next model R8 comes out I'll be giving that very serious consideration but I can't imagine getting rid of the current GT-R for any of the above. Of course that will change. I am acutely aware of how much money I'd lose and that's if there's even any prospect of finding a buyer for mine.

Anyway, Richard's MY14..... (so sorry Richard)
No problem Adam.

I have to agree with you actually.
If you've spent £££££ on moddifying any GT-R it's always going to a be a tough call to sell it, take the hit on retained value of mods, then start again.

I am currently R35-less so it puts me in a different position.
And the changes to the MY14 make it worth more (to me, using it for a family of four) than a nearly new MY13.

Also I'm a sucker for the new paint.

An older GT-R I'd have to wrap and get the Litchfield suspension fitted. So £6k+ right away on top of the purchase price.
All of which would add little to it's resale value.

As for depreication on a new car... I lost £3k on my MY11 + I spent just under £20k on it in 18 months.
So I can't see it's going to be any worse !!!
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Richard,

In your position, as I think I said earlier, I would have done exactly the same thing. Glad you weren't suckered in by the ridiculous Nismo abomination (non to Nurburgringgtr there!).

It's kind of odd, but having seen what 20BL lost on the SLS, kind of makes the depreciation we both have clearly given thought to, a bit of a non-event. That said you'd need to be able to afford the SLS in the first place to take a loss of £80k in 6 months in your stride. There's no way I could do that.

It's actually the reason I find myself thinking that other than the GT-R bucking the depreciation trend, the most sensible things to consider are much more exotic or proper special editions. eg. GT3 4.0RS, or Mclaren/Ferrari options. The 458 Speciale looks interesting, but even that you can jump into without waiting. An R8 would go a similar way to the SLS.

Once prices get into the high 100ks, I find myself shrinking back towards enjoying the awesome giant killer I have already and contemplating buying a 1 bed/studio flat in London for investment purposes.
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