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Old 29th January 2014, 12:21 PM   #81 (permalink)
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In your position, as I think I said earlier, I would have done exactly the same thing. Glad you weren't suckered in by the ridiculous Nismo abomination (non to Nurburgringgtr there!).

It's kind of odd, but having seen what 20BL lost on the SLS, kind of makes the depreciation we both have clearly given thought to, a bit of a non-event. That said you'd need to be able to afford the SLS in the first place to take a loss of £80k in 6 months in your stride. There's no way I could do that.

It's actually the reason I find myself thinking that other than the GT-R bucking the depreciation trend, the most sensible things to consider are much more exotic or proper special editions. eg. GT3 4.0RS, or Mclaren/Ferrari options. The 458 Speciale looks interesting, but even that you can jump into without waiting. An R8 would go a similar way to the SLS.

Once prices get into the high 100ks, I find myself shrinking back towards enjoying the awesome giant killer I have already and contemplating buying a 1 bed/studio flat in London for investment purposes.
My situation is that I just wouldn't park anything flashier on the drive.

Both my wife and I are happy where we live, but it's not a big or flash place.
We have instead chosen to buy other properties than have a large house with loads of spare space, then sell and downsize when the kids have gone.

There is no way on earth I'd park a Ferrari, R8 etc... on the drive.
Even though with the MY14 and a few car projects I maybe could have stretched to a decent 2nd hand one.

The Nissan suits me very well because it's just that. A Nissan.
I'd look a bit daft buying a Ferrari and parking it on the drive next to the Yeti in a village of normal detached houses.

Basically, flashy badge cars don't interest me.
What they can do does and for the price I still don't think anything competes. (even at nearly £80k)
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Old 29th January 2014, 12:29 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Old 29th January 2014, 12:32 PM   #83 (permalink)
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My situation is that I just wouldn't park anything flashier on the drive.

Both my wife and I are happy where we live, but it's not a big or flash place.
We have instead chosen to buy other properties than have a large house with loads of spare space, then sell and downsize when the kids have gone.

There is no way on earth I'd park a Ferrari, R8 etc... on the drive.
Even though with the MY14 and a few car projects I maybe could have stretched to a decent 2nd hand one.

The Nissan suits me very well because it's just that. A Nissan.
I'd look a bit daft buying a Ferrari and parking it on the drive next to the Yeti in a village of normal detached houses.

Basically, flashy badge cars don't interest me.
What they can do does and for the price I still don't think anything competes. (even at nearly £80k)
Completely understand that statement, as its exactly what the missus and I have done. We bought our house some time ago, its big enough for us and its not too bad.... would like a big flash house, but would much rather put the spare money into other houses and cars

I thought the same when I was considering an Aston instead of the GTR, but went with the GTR.... I really like the Datsun
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I agree with you on one thing but not the rest. The best part of the GT-R for me is the badge. I love that it's a Nissan. I love having the conversation about what car you drive saying I drive a Nissan. The anti-snobbery factor is unparalleled. I'd very much like a convertible, but would struggle to be seen in one, especially one with a ferrari or mclaren badge. The area I live in could support it, and it wouldn't be an odd sight, but me in one just doesn't work. The R8 is about as far as I could carry it.

But, I'd much rather put my money into a nice house for me and the children to enjoy. It scares me how much I'd need to spend but I'd far rather put money into our main residence as we can enjoy it every day and it appreciates in value with having to pay the capital gains. Of course I think I'd enjoy my life a lot more if I had enough additional properties to not have to work but that's some way off at the moment.
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Old 29th January 2014, 02:53 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Old 29th January 2014, 04:56 PM   #86 (permalink)
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CT17 do you think the my14 will be an upgrade from your old car, my11 stage 2 with alcon bbk and litchfield suspension?

I've also considered the mp4 but have the exact same reservations. Some may have forgotten how much more safer/easier the gtr is to drive over other relative cars. Put your foot down and your gone.

watch the review by chris harris of the new porka turbo vs the mp4 spyder.
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Old 29th January 2014, 05:04 PM   #87 (permalink)
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CT17 do you think the my14 will be an upgrade from your old car, my11 stage 2 with alcon bbk and litchfield suspension
Bit early to say. Improvements are pretty much road biased.
I'd suggest on track, no. My MY11 was almost 600bhp and stopped better.
But on the road, yes. Looks easier to live with.
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Old 29th January 2014, 05:09 PM   #88 (permalink)
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But then there is nothing to stop a little bit of MY14 tweakage.
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Old 29th January 2014, 05:18 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Nurburgringgtr and I were fortunate enough to be able to see this car at Nissan HQ the day before and the paint does look fab when sun shines on it. I was going to start a thread dedicated to impressions but might as well not junk up forum and agree with what Rich has said. The interior is a significant step up from the current (Carbon dials are very nice) and the MFD, to me, appeared far clearer and faster (approx 20% on zoom and other functions) to my MY10. Also the UI has been tweaked a bit on the Function menus so new firmware I assume and possible screen tweak.

The smell is significantly improved with the interior smelling of real leather and the rear seats are a big step forward from previous generations. Might seem a small point but has a more premium feel at the new price point.

The Bolt logo style headlights look good (didn't get to see them in the dark of course) and there is a new switch for the automated light function down towards the boot release switch area below right of the steering wheel. I assume this is to turn the new adaptive lighting function (go faster it extends the beam further out I believe) on or off.

While the colour combo isn't brilliant with red car and leather it is obviously to showcase the two new options. The beige with black or blue and the red with white or black car might work well.

One thing that struck both John and I was the seats are significantly 'softer' and more comfortable while retaining the shape and bolsters of the previous cars. Too soft for track support but much better on roads possibly.....? Whatever the reasons the feel, look and stitching of the leather is a big jump forward.

Gear lever surround is stitched leather now rather than naff plastic but th full tranny tunnel retains the plastic, easy scratch surface.

We didn't get a chance to run out so interesting to hear what Rich said about the suspension being, at first ride, as good as the aftermarket - I understand progression in suspension has been pretty big since my MY10 but will reserve judgement til I get a ride in one.

Exterior all looks stock and the carbon boot and spoiler were not in evidence (not even sure if they are UK market available).

Overall at under £80k I guess it is still a pretty great bargain when you consider how damn fast it is and the price rises in Porsche stable, Jag F Type V8R coupe (£95k....?) etc.

Looking forward to a spin out in one.
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The thing I did find a bit odd (as touched on above) was removing the "Off" for the lights.

The default is now Auto, or you can turn them on all the time.
That's it.

Not a biggie, but it just seemed a strange function to remove.
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But then there is nothing to stop a little bit of MY14 tweakage.
It starts!

I actually want to look at the headlight retrofit and possibly the noise cancellation.
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Bit early to say. Improvements are pretty much road biased.
I'd suggest on track, no. My MY11 was almost 600bhp and stopped better.
But on the road, yes. Looks easier to live with.
if the litchfield suspension felt a tad better or the same even why do you think it would be better on the road?
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if the litchfield suspension felt a tad better or the same even why do you think it would be better on the road?
Because they haven't only improved the suspension.
There are other improvements including the noise cancelling which improves the road/tyre noise.
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It starts!

I actually want to look at the headlight retrofit and possibly the noise cancellation.
that would e interesting
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Because they haven't only improved the suspension.
There are other improvements including the noise cancelling which improves the road/tyre noise.
Do you think that could be due to it having new tyre?
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Do you think that could be due to it having new tyre?
Let's be honest, I don't know how each part of the puzzle effects the whole.

They say they have changed the steering, suspension, insulation and tyres.
And added noise cancelling
So it rides better, is quieter and (they say) less corrective steering is needed.

Waiting for my test hoon, err... drive.
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true CT17

i think we will know the facts when a tuner gets hold of one.

like the new gearbox they said it had on the my11 but all it was, was a software update.
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i think we will know the facts when a tuner gets hold of one.
It'll turn into a Qashqai?

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Let's be honest, I don't know how each part of the puzzle effects the whole.

They say they have changed the steering, suspension, insulation and tyres.
And added noise cancelling
So it rides better, is quieter and (they say) less corrective steering is needed.

Waiting for my test hoon, err... drive.
Oh dear, you bought without testing ? I'll sell you my two if your that keen !!!
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