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Old 2nd August 2004, 06:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gearboxes?

Well, the 1st time I used it in anger, it's fubar'd

I was running the OS Giken uprated syncho gearset & didn't expect it to cope anyway, so was expected to a certain extent.

Now, I need to stick something else in there, but I don't know what to even consider

I suppose a dog box is an option, although a route I don't really want to go down if it can be avoided..

Do people have any experiences of the following: HKS Dog box, Trust dog box, Hollinger dog box or the ones that Gary @ GT Art has just got involved in?

Ideally I would love an uprated syncho kit, just for ease of use & maintenance, reason being dog box experience means quite a few strip downs & replacing the dogs? Or is this only when going the clutchless gear change route?

Help! getting confused now!
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I didn't realise your car was dead whenI spoke to you, sorry for that. I bought my PPG kit (same as what Abbey are using, but mine is a subaru) direct from Simon Pfitzner, and I can thouroughly recommend it. It's a straight cut synchro, which gives you the noise but easy changes. I have a standard 5th for quiet motorway cruising. You should be able to order just a few gears rather than a whole set, which is what I did, retaining the PAR 1st and 2nd.

I think you will agree I gave it a good workout at the weekend.

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Hi paul

At that moment, I thought it was just a bit hot & crunchy, but it got worse & worse

By the time I got home 3rd was probably a 1 in 10 chance of getting & 4th was crunching in every change..

I'll have a look into that though! what are they like maintenance wise?
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mine uses factory synchro parts, so maintenance is the same. The straight cut gears are just stronger, reduce side loadings and make noise. PPG also do a dog kit, not sure on dog ring life though.

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"same as what Abbey are using"

We use Holinger in both Rockets cars and David Harrisons and our drag car , we have spoken to Simon Pfitzner , but we have never used one of there boxes , but Renton from Redline has got one that we are going to build for the REDLINE skybus.

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I'm sorry I was under the impression that it was yourselves testing the PPG as the new "value solution" or whatever, and that you rated it highly, perhaps I am mixing you up with someone else. I didn't mean to infer that this was the sort of box in Ronnies car etc.

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Paul, Never realised you had a dog gear kit installed


Chris, sorry to hear about the failure m8

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I don't have a DOG ENGAGEMENT gear kit, i have a SYNCHRO gear set with STRAIGHT CUT teeth!

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Gary at GTaRT has the pfitzner box in his car and very good it is too.

It is a straight cut gearset so does whine a little and I also believe it is a dog box. Having said that it is really smooth and takes very little effort to change gear.

As regards dog ring life, I have no idea, never owned a dog box.

Best speak to Gary if you want the full low down or possibly a demo.

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You are more than welcome to come down and experience the 1 finger gear change of the PPG dog engagement gear set that i run in my car,
There are a few options to choose from, mine at present is 5 speed straight cut.
The dog life really depends on driver , so far i have no reason to belive that there is any limit as to the dog life on the PPG gear set

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Do these PPG people do a sequential mate? I hear they do a box for an FD RX7, so we will be talking once I win the lottery.
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Not at present,
unless you want a 1 off then it would be done,
You dont really need one though as you can do clutchless changes all day long,and still not break the thing
How cool is that
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Damn cool, but not quite as cool as pushing a lever just back or forward to change gear Just that 'toy factor' I guess. Still if I win the lottery then I can get one specially made.

It would need to be pretty hardcore for 4 rotors and 4 turbo's!!!!!! Thats an easy 1500bhp.... ....errrr better get back to reality now.....

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My mistake I was confusing Abbey for GT-ART with the PPG, how bad can you be!

PPG is nice kit, dog box may yet be on the cards for next year.

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