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View Poll Results: What make of tyres do you use?
Goodyear 112 11.79%
Continental 32 3.37%
Toyo 182 19.16%
Pirelli 40 4.21%
Michelin 43 4.53%
Dunlop 67 7.05%
Bridgestone 199 20.95%
Avon 25 2.63%
Yokohama 104 10.95%
Falkens 146 15.37%
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Old 26th March 2007, 10:37 PM   #201 (permalink)
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Have anyone used Hankook Ventus Tyres on a GTR?

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Old 27th March 2007, 08:26 AM   #202 (permalink)
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They still do the 451's and can get them delivered for £360
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Old 28th March 2007, 05:33 PM   #203 (permalink)
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They still do the 451's and can get them delivered for £360
PM me those details please mate as im in dire need of some new ones.
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Old 5th April 2007, 05:33 PM   #205 (permalink)
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Old 12th April 2007, 04:51 PM   #206 (permalink)
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GY Eagle F1's seem to have the majority here, should I buy?

Hi Guys, this thread has been running since 2002!!!!!!!!!! I flicked through and it seems the F1's have more back up by people who had them or have/had just got them. I have Kumho's all round and they are pretty good the previous owner put them on. Now the rears need a change desperately! Can anyone sway me away from the F1's and very importantly does anyone have any contact details of somewhere that gives the best deals??
I am running 275/30/19 's all round. I am a hard road driver No tracks yet. thanks
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To All,

Are any of you experiencing understeer/oversteer sliding effect at 30-50mph with your Bridgestone's S03 on a GTR?

I am currently waiting for Bridgestone to respond.

You feedback is greatly appreciated.

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Old 23rd April 2007, 10:23 PM   #208 (permalink)
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Just found out that 255/40/17 do not fit a 17x10j rim...

Take note guys!!!

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Old 24th April 2007, 07:22 PM   #209 (permalink)
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Says who?

..and why?

A 17" x 10J rim will take a tyre upto 265 x 40, as confirmed by a leading manufacturer:

Toyo Tires - Proxes T1Rô

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Old 24th April 2007, 09:40 PM   #210 (permalink)
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Have anyone used Hankook Ventus Tyres on a GTR?

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I fitted them on mine took about 600 miles to bed in but grip realy well now and only £80 a corner
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Old 24th April 2007, 09:44 PM   #211 (permalink)
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Are any of you experiencing understeer/oversteer sliding effect at 30-50mph with your Bridgestone's S03 on a GTR?

I am currently waiting for Bridgestone to respond.

You feedback is greatly appreciated.

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i had them on my car and had the same problum, changed them for hancok ventus and had no problums for around £80 pound a corner they are excellent value and grip better than my bridgestones
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Old 24th April 2007, 11:25 PM   #212 (permalink)
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I've got S03's on my car. Can't say I've noticed and grip/handling issues at all and I drive my car quite hard, but not insanely.
I quite like em', but I've not tried anything else yet.
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Aitch,

Are you saying that I may have grounds for a refund from Bridgestone?

To be honest I was using Toyos and could not find a set when needed.

I then decided to buy the S03 on same size as the Toyo's.

Bridgestone Engineer came out and discovered my tyre pressures were on the low side.

They recommended 32 psi each tyre - Rising Sun did the tyre pressures (when cold) drove home and nearly crashed! The car was just tramlining all the way bk.

The engineer told me that the tyre was stretched and gave me details regarding this.

He told me that it was possible that the Toyos were slightly wider and even 1mm would make it sit properly on the rim..

I did a search and I found out that TVR was experiencing tramlining at low speed.

If you have any addational details I would be very grateful as I just brought the tyres and just want my money back so i can buy the Toyos.

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Old 26th April 2007, 09:36 AM   #214 (permalink)
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Hi All,

New to the forum as I thinking to buy a 33 gtr and have been watching the Rsykline problem this what I have found out about it.

If the tyre manufacturer recomends a size rim for their own product this must be followed, If you have not followed their guide lines and you have a problem like Rskyline they can legally refuse the claim as you have not fitted to the correct size rim!

If another tyre manufacturer recomends that size it does not mean all manufacturer do.

As from toyo link Toyo Tires - Proxes T1R they only are recomending their product.

I called in to a Kwik fit near me and asked what size rim they would recomend for 255x40x17 running bridgestone s03 and he got a bridgestone pattern book out and looked it up "that size tyre from bridgestone would only recomend a 9" rim" I asked can I go wider to 10" rim he replied "Sorry I can only recomend what bridgestone say also if you put the tyre on a wide rim this would be stretching the tyre tyre to fit and possibly cause's handle problems".

he also gave me a copy of the pattern book dated 2005
I have scanned the page but can not load the picture up.

If you get any thing from Bridgestone I would be very surprised as its a fitment problem and not a problem with the tyre.

Sorry to be negative but I have had a problem we an another tyre manufacturer some time ago and they put the blame on to the tyre dealer who fitted my tyres on to a narrower rim than recomended. They said the dealer should have contacted them if they have not got the information ie tech data books etc.
My dealer told me to #### off and did the manufacturer so I will not use the french tyre company again.

Hope this helps
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Old 26th April 2007, 05:27 PM   #215 (permalink)
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Tiggs,

I have checked independant websites and it states that the 255/40/17 will fit on a 17/10j rim.

One of the sites is the gospal for Tyres and Rims.

Car Bibles : The Wheel and Tyre Bible

I advise you to take a look.

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I have checked independant websites and it states that the 255/40/17 will fit on a 17/10j rim.

Richard
Hi Richard,

I have taken a look at your link mentioned and it's a inderpendant web site and not the manufacturer of the product you have and like I said if one manufacturer say's that their tyre's fit that size rim it's not across the board with all manufacturer's.
You have to follow what the manufacturer recomends of the product you have!

For example "you would not go to ford if you have a problem with your nissan and ask ford for tech data about your nissan because ford will laugh at you"

It's the same process with any product you buy and you want data for you must go to the manufacturer of the product you have bought.

Sorry for ranting on.
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I have Bridgestone Potenza RE01 .. awesome grip and perfect tyres for hard driving..have driven 3000miles and god knows how much the previous owner did on them
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I think it's generally widely regarded that Bridgestones just don't work on Skylines. A lot of people have tried them and they keep coming to the same conclusions. That still leave quite a wide variety however. At the GTROC we are arranging a tyre test to put the most used ones up against each other and see what the results are...........
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If I understand you correctly you have been advised by a so called expert (I hope that wasn't kwikfit as that would be a contradiction in terms) that the tyre(s) you purchased would not fit a wheel which conformed to the range of acceptable wheel widths for that size tyre, as proposed by other manufacturers and reliable expert sources?

I would at least want an explanation from the manufacturer as to why their tyre is so different from others that it so requires a different size wheel. We must focus on the facts here, and the primary fact is that tyres are considered as off the shelf consumables, products suitable and safe for sale to "Non Expert" owners across the counter or online etc..for goodness sake they sell them in supermarkets in many countries!

I am a great believer in the right tools for the job, indeed I can be quite pedantic in that respect, but the notion of extending that to accommodate this scenario is just not on. As you will see from the carbibles tyre section (and other sourses are available) the rules, regulations and visible markings on tyres are international, allowing for conformity and compatibility across the globe, there are not different rules for different manufacturers or even countries. These regulations are in place precisely to reduce the risk of this situation, as it poses a severe safety risk issue.

I know that some vehicle makers will specify a certain tyre where suspension geometry etc has been optimised for that tyre, but to accept this scenario would be descending into farce.

So, to avoid any ambiguity I've just spoken to a local independant tyre and wheel only specialists, they have two depots which have operated locally for over 30 years. They sell only quality tyres and wheels and a lowering service with full suspension geometry adjustment service, they fully understand the core subject. They are highly thought of and considered to be "the people" for tyre knowledge in this area. I put the question to them, "is it the case that tyres of the same size parameters but from different manufacturers might require different wheel sizes, specifically different wheel widths"?

They gave that notion a categoric definitely not! To even begin to consider the possibility of that scenario, at least for normal road tyres, would create thousands of additional fitting permutations. It would push up the cost of both tyres and fitting to extraordinary levels, most drivers would have to run on the rims! It would in fact have the potential to create dangerous conditions for thousands of drivers, even common sense logic dictates it's a silly notion.

Tyres are made to a series of patterns, the parameters for which were set and accepted by ALL manufactuers for road tyres worldwide, same in India as in America or Japan or New Zealand. A tyre produced by any manufacturer for sale to the public MUST abide by those principle rules of fitment, quality and performance are the only permitted variables.

I suspect there's been some misunderstanding here, I would go back to square one and examine the events to seek the answer.

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The issue deepens!!!

I have spoken to bridgestone and they are now prepared to refund the money that the garage has paid to the Wholesaler and not to me!

This put me totally out of pocket for something that is totally not my fault.

I have stated to Bridgestone that there is nowhere to check for tyres sizes against rims on their website and that independant websites was an alternative source of information.

My garage that sold me the tyres suspect it came from Europe - This means that bridgestone will not give a credit note as they are UK Based.

All,
Do you think that the Garage that supplied me the tyres is at fault under 'duty of care'?

OR

Bridgestone for not informing the garage of this fault, nor supplying or having the information available to the customer? (not even a message to contact bridgestone technical on thier unavailable website)?

I cant drive my car, and its got to the point that i just want rid of the damn tyres.

Why should I have to pay for another set of tyres?????? AND wait for a refund that could take upto 6 weeks?

I feel I have been treated unfairly, I have provided the information at hand to Bridgestone - I feel they should just take the tyres off me and provide me the correct size.

I have even given them an opportunity to provide the 265/40/17's on the SO'3 just to make a point about the sizes and each the transation thru - but Bridgestone declined stating that they cannot recommend a tyre to fit a Nissan Skyline GTR33 with a 17x10j Rim.

Your thoughts please!!!!
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