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Old 30th August 2001, 10:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy R35 USA Version !!! ??

Its a Skyline but not as we know it.

IT'S A BLOODY FAMILY CAR FOR THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD U.S MARKET (It's a Subaru Legacy B4 but without the turbo's and 4 wheel drive, so it is just a standard Legacy. All that you needed is 2.3 kids, one dog and a wife and you will be all set for middle age boredom)

Am I in the minority or do other GTR fans think the same ? Post your thoughts and let Nissan know.

The text below was taken from Car and Driver a USA publication.
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"Nissan finally seems to be getting serious about its luxury division, Infiniti. New this year is the powerful and much-improved Q45 that should jump-start lnfiniti's weak full-size-sedan sales.
By the spring of 2002, Infiniti will enter perhaps the most critical market for a luxury automaker these days, the so-called near-luxury sports-sedan class that includes the BMW 3-series, the Audi A4, the Mercedes-Benz C-class, and the Lexus IS300. Its entry them, the powerful rear-drive Infiniti G35, will be virtually identical with a new generation of the legendary Nissan Skyline performance car sold only in Japan.
There is angst in Japan about the Skyline losing its traditional round brake lights and 2.6-liter in-line six-cylinder engine. Nissan has replaced these items with strange, angular LED brake lights and a V6 engine. Nissan conceived this sedan for a world market and decided to diverge from the accepted Skyline definition.
As the new kid on the sports-sedan block, North Americans will take the G35 at face value. It must deliver the goods. And that means it must look purposeful and stylish, handle well, and offer decent interior and luggage space.
The front styling boasts simple, understated lines. The overall look of the G35 comes from the XVI show car seen at the 2000 Detroit auto show. At 184.0 inches overall on a 112.0-inch wheelbase, the G35 will be one of the biggest cars in its class. That pays off in ample head- and legroom throughout the cabin.
Its wheelbase is mighty six inches longer than that of the BMW 3-series or the Lexus IS300.
Comfort is one thing, but if Infiniti expected to compete with proper sports sedans in a way that its front-drive I30 never did, it had to focus on performance. It 's a good omen that the man in charge of the design was Nissan's former Le Mans and Group C racing team manager, Kazutoshi Mizuno. Performance begins with packaging, and Nissan refers to the G35 as having an FM package, for "front midship", because the V6 is located rearward of the front axle for better weight distribution.
Drawing on his racing experience, Mizuno sculpted the Skyline/ G35 to an amazingly low coefficient of drag (0.27) and attained a zero-lift aerodynamic package-no need then for unsightly rear wings.
The Skyline's body is a dual bulkhead design that helps damp vibrations and isolate the cabin from noise and heat The test car we drove in Japan was the top-of-the-line Skyline with a 3.0-liter V6 producing 260 horsepower at 6400 rpm. The 3.0-liter delivers superbly progressive acceleration with strong low- to midrange torque. The five-speed automatic shifts smoothly and has a responsive manumatic function. We can expect similarly low NVH levels in the G35.
Early next year, when the G35 goes on sale in the U.S., it will be powered by a version of the 3.5-liter V6 from the Nissan Maxima that pumps out about 270 horses.
Mizuno wanted a flatter, more balanced ride compared with that of the previous Skyline, so he revised the predecessors four-wheel multilink set-up. By incorporating alloy arms and a double pivot system on the front, unsprung weight was reduced by 25 percent compared with the old car. The ride and handling capabilities for the new car am outstanding.
By relocating the attachment points of the springs and shock absorbers on the mar suspension, Nissan has reduced friction by 70 percent The new model employs "ripple control" shocks that work to absorb the smallest of bumps or road undulations. This is said to maximise time contact with the road. The brake-pedal stroke is short, and the pedal feels firm. Mizuno set up the brake-force distribution to use the rear brakes mom heavily than on the previous car (63 percent front, 37 percent mar). A long wheelbase with a weight distribution of 52-48 (front to rear) helps to maximise stability under braking. An improved ABS
also appears on the new model, and the American-market G35 will come with a stability-control system.
The end result is a luxury sports sedan that redefines high-speed stability, cornering, and braking. Body roll is minimal even when thrown hard at a corner. Steering is well weighted and precise. Pushed hard, a touch of understeer has been dialed in for safety. And Nissan chose the 17-inch Bridgestone Regno tyres (215155R-17) fitted on our Japanese test car not for maximum grip but for the "best match of grip and ride comfort:"
The instrumentation is simple, easy to read, and well laid out. Depending on your definition, the interior design is either conservative and ugly or retro and chic.
In addition to manual and automatic transmissions, Infiniti might offer a toroidal continuously variable transmission with six-speed function for U.S. models, providing a few low-temperature issues can be resolved. We can also expect to see a two-door version sometime in 2002. Infiniti has yet to set pricing, but it 's a sure bet it will be competitive with the other cars in the class. Figure a base price just a nudge over $30,000 -right on top of Lexus IS300 pricing at $30,805.
The U.S-bound G35, which will slot in between the upcoming Infiniti I35 and the unloved four-cylinder G20, offers Nissan's most sporting sedan ever to come to America. We told you Infiniti was getting serious."

An Article by Peter Lyon
SEPTEMBER 2001 Car and Driver A USA publication

Is there going to be a fully blown 2 door GTR VSPEC 4 wheel drive turbo version, or is it going to be a 2 door 2 wheel drive family version (3.5-liter V6 from the Nissan Maxima, with a mind numbingly boring 270bhp)?
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Old 5th September 2001, 07:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thumbs down 35 GTR is dead

My thought is the same, the legendary 4WD twin turbo inline 6 GTR is dead. While we in the US is finally getting the Japanese Skyline, but it is going to be just another boring luxury car. The GTR we will be getting here in the state are very well be a 2 doors RWD coupe with the VQ35DE, or at the most, with the 340HP 4.5L V8 from the Q45.................woooo....very exciting, NOT!

Anyone wants a true GTR better get a R34 GTR V-spec II while Nissan is still making them.

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Sure the "real" GTR is no-more ...but what's all the fuss with this V35/G35 Skyline business. It's just a bloody family 4 door saloon!! I didn't see people complaning about the R34 4 door saloon(which is pretty damn ugly) when it came out.

The next GTR is not even going to be called a Skyline!



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Yeah I agree the R34 4-door are not very attractive compare to the R34 GTR. But at least the R34 4-door can be order with manual transmission, turbocharged inline 6 and 4WD, which the V35 have none of those things. You are right DCD, the V35 is a lame boring family salon and we should just stop talking about it.
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