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Old 17th June 2015, 11:19 AM   #81 (permalink)
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You're misquoting Dan, mine made 1119bhp at 1.7Bar on Race Fuel.

Yh I no Matt, the reason of the thread is to find out what people have achieved on a size of a turbo because so far yours is the most impressive power I've seen for power on the size of turbo and boost
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Old 17th June 2015, 11:19 AM   #82 (permalink)
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Whats your fuel pressure, injector duty and injector CC at max HP Matt?

E.g. how much fuel are you using at max hp?
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Old 17th June 2015, 11:34 AM   #83 (permalink)
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Whats your fuel pressure, injector duty and injector CC at max HP Matt?

E.g. how much fuel are you using at max hp?
Not entirely sure to be honest Andy as I don't have the Log File for the Max BHP run.

But, what I can see is the Log from TOTB, again nothing to hide so here is the info:

Max Boost - 2.5BarA
Max Fuel P - 5BarG
INJ Duty - 79% (6x 1000cc and 6 x 600cc)
Fuel Pumps - 3 staged Bosch 044s all active

Edit: INJ Duty increases as RPM increases, peak is 79%.
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Not entirely sure to be honest Andy as I don't have the Log File for the Max BHP run.

But, what I can see is the Log from TOTB, again nothing to hide so here is the info:

Max Boost - 2.5BarA
Max Fuel P - 5BarG
INJ Duty - 79% (6x 1000cc and 6 x 600cc)
Fuel Pumps - 3 staged Bosch 044s all active

Edit: INJ Duty increases as RPM increases, peak is 79%.

Is that on race fuel Matt?
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Is that on race fuel Matt?
Yes Dan, that was on VP.
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Old 17th June 2015, 12:02 PM   #86 (permalink)
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**** it, I'm tired of having to defend everything I've done to my car and the reasons why.
It's only a hobby to me.
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Old 17th June 2015, 12:26 PM   #87 (permalink)
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**** it, I'm tired of having to defend everything I've done to my car and the reasons why.
It's only a hobby to me.

What you having to defend Matt? You was the one saying single tb are no good not the other way round?
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I've never said a single TB is 'no good' Dan, I asked specifically "at what point does a single throttle body become more efficient than individual throttle bodies?" - you couldn't answer; with the exception of saying 400BHP because Hypertune told you so.
I'll repeat myself again as it's not sinking in with you - I've not yet experienced the ITBs being a restriction, there would be symptoms that I'm just not experiencing.

IMHO, people are 'upgrading' to single TBs unnecessarily based upon unsound facts but then I'm only a hobbyist so my opinion doesn't really count for much.

Anyway, crack on running 9s Dan, it should be easy with your power.
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I've never said a single TB is 'no good' Dan, I asked specifically "at what point does a single throttle body become more efficient than individual throttle bodies?" - you couldn't answer; with the exception of saying 400BHP because Hypertune told you so.
I'll repeat myself again as it's not sinking in with you - I've not yet experienced the ITBs being a restriction, there would be symptoms that I'm just not experiencing.

IMHO, people are 'upgrading' to single TBs unnecessarily based upon unsound facts but then I'm only a hobbyist so my opinion doesn't really count for much.

Anyway, crack on running 9s Dan, it should be easy with your power.
I never said were the restriction would become a problem Ive always said power can be gained by a single and proven the restriction by blue32 post when amt flowed tested the itb.

Who said it would be easy? I said it feels like it should be a low 10 high 9 plus mine is a fairly low budget build Matt for what I've spent on mine if it runs a low 10 high 9 it's a very good achievement.

You need to crack on and run a 8 as you've allways said with your power is doable. I suppose that all depends if you can actually turn up to the strip one day with your car working 100%??
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Not entirely sure to be honest Andy as I don't have the Log File for the Max BHP run.

But, what I can see is the Log from TOTB, again nothing to hide so here is the info:

Max Boost - 2.5BarA
Max Fuel P - 5BarG
INJ Duty - 79% (6x 1000cc and 6 x 600cc)
Fuel Pumps - 3 staged Bosch 044s all active

Edit: INJ Duty increases as RPM increases, peak is 79%.
Does this help Dan?
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I never said were the restriction would become a problem Ive always said power can be gained by a single and proven the restriction by blue32 post when amt flowed tested the itb.
You didn't prove anything, you just posted what restriction the ITBs made on a standard plenum. The fact is, I can't see where anyone has done conclusive back-to-back tests to prove the point either way.

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Who said it would be easy? I said it feels like it should be a low 10 high 9 plus mine is a fairly low budget build Matt for what I've spent on mine if it runs a low 10 high 9 it's a very good achievement.
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Healthy figures Dan, be good to see you at the pod.
With that power you should be running what, 9.8ish and high 130s at the pod?
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after driving the car it just feels them sort of times. Of course doing it is a diffrent story but I'm going to give it a go my aim is a 9 anyway.
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You need to crack on and run a 8 as you've allways said with your power is doable. I suppose that all depends if you can actually turn up to the strip one day with your car working 100%??
Is that the best you can do? When are you going to understand that this is just a hobby to me, I'm not throwing money at a project and expecting to challenge anyone for records or titles. I am an engineer by trade, I review my logs and research the results and look for improvements, my car is constantly evolving so I've never turned up to the track running the same spec as the previous outing. I suppose you're as critical of Mclaren for doing the same in F1...

By the way, how did the 1000bhp on pump fuel AMT car do at TOTB or MGT with their 900WHP stripped out race car or Jurgen with his 1500bhp GTR?
I didn't see you criticising them about their lack of reliability.
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Matt, he's just not worth the effort.
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Agreed.
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Stop replying on my thread then this thread wasn't started for you to bang on about a load of shit I'm just asking people for there results jeez
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But you don't believe the results when they're posted for you Dan.
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But you don't believe the results when they're posted for you Dan.
I didn't say I didn't Matt, I just think if your engine has genuinely done that at that boost pressure then it's one hell of a engine and probly the most efficient rb I've seen anywhere. Imagine what it would make at 2.5-3 bar off boost
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I didn't say I didn't Matt, I just think if your engine has genuinely done that at that boost pressure then it's one hell of a engine and probly the most efficient tb I've seen anywhere
Cool, I'll accept my engine is a very good/efficient build; just as the mapper did when he was mapping it, can we move on now?
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Imagine what it would make at 2.5-3 bar off boost
Why? That won't automatically increase power as you're obviously expecting it to.
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Cool, I'll accept my engine is a very good/efficient build; just as the mapper did when he was mapping it, can we move on now?

Yes course I've allways said that tho matt I find it hard to believe because it such a good result best I've seen tbh that's all
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Why? That won't automatically increase power as you're obviously expecting it to.

At some point you would hit a restriction I suppose or turbos efficiency?
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