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Old 25th April 2017, 10:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is my theory about why second hand R35 GT-Rs won't drop in price correct?

So I've been eyeing the prices of second hand R35 GT-Rs for what it seems like an age.

I've noticed that the prices don't really drop much. A decent, standard 2012 or 2013 GT-R with 10-20k miles is still around the 52-54k mark. The same for a few years now.

Is this because (my theory) the old CBA cars are stuck at the 37-40k mark. They have nowhere to drop in price as the R34 GT-R I've seen (even standard!) going for this much. A very good price for a seller as brand new these were 54k. No example of such second hand R34s to hand.

And if this is the last all-engined GT-R, then I think that may influence price?!
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Old 26th April 2017, 12:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Personally I don't think R34 prices come into it. R35 prices do have somewhere to go, and that's down.

Even the newer cars are getting old now, 12's are 5 years old, 09's are 8 years old, and all the time more cars are piling up on top and compressing the prices. I think something has to give and a drop is due this year and next year, wouldn't be surprised to see low 30's 09's within 2 years.
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Old 26th April 2017, 03:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Up or down dont plan to sell lol
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Old 26th April 2017, 04:50 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Personally I don't think R34 prices come into it. R35 prices do have somewhere to go, and that's down.

Even the newer cars are getting old now, 12's are 5 years old, 09's are 8 years old, and all the time more cars are piling up on top and compressing the prices. I think something has to give and a drop is due this year and next year, wouldn't be surprised to see low 30's 09's within 2 years.
Aye, but the models above have got more expensive year on year and they look exactly the same. Unless a serious face lift comes out or R36 then they won't fall much.

Also, why have an R34 if you can have an R35. Of course it has an influence.

Same as the 996 turbo. 997s have gone up as the older model pushes them up.
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Old 26th April 2017, 06:05 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Certainly the older 35's seem to be holding their value well but this is only due to the newer models being dearer to buy to start with.
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Old 26th April 2017, 09:21 AM   #6 (permalink)
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What else can you buy for £35k ('09) that does what a GTR does?
That will be what puts the floor under them, until something alternative performs that well for less demand will always be strong at the bottom.

Had a huge shock on the weekend when I realised that you can easily spec a new Golf R to £40k!
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Old 26th April 2017, 10:09 AM   #7 (permalink)
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What else can you buy for £35k ('09) that does what a GTR does?
That will be what puts the floor under them, until something alternative performs that well for less demand will always be strong at the bottom.

Had a huge shock on the weekend when I realised that you can easily spec a new Golf R to £40k!
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Old 26th April 2017, 11:11 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Certainly the older 35's seem to be holding their value well but this is only due to the newer models being dearer to buy to start with.
Exactly this^^, and it's as simple as that.. As the car is still the same shape, it's just had facelift tweaks over the years, with the my17 having the most changes (especially interior and front /rear bumper) and 2 price changes within its release.

R35 GTR prices over the years -

my09 from £52k base car, premium £53.5k black edition £55k
my10 from £62,000
my11 from £68.500 - £73,000 with extra's
my12 from £74,500
my13 from £76,610
my14 from £77,995
my15 from £78,030 Track edition from £88,560, Nismo from £125,000
my16 from £79,995 Pure Edition, £81,995 Recaro, £82,495 Prestige, £91,995 Track, Nismo £149,995
my17 from £80,995 Pure Edition, £82,995 Recaro, £83,495 Prestige, £92,995 Track, Nismo £149,995 (on launch end of 2016)
my17 from £81,875 Pure Edition, £83,875 Recaro, £84,375 Prestige, £93,875 Track, Nismo £150,875 (Nissan prices increased from April 2017)
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R8,
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Vantage
Think i would keep the old Datsun if thats the case
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Old 26th April 2017, 11:42 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Think i would keep the old Datsun if thats the case
Fanboi's do what fanboi's do.
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Old 26th April 2017, 11:45 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Think if you took time and read my older post im no fanboi - i say it as it is - tell me which one of those cars is better than a gtr and why - the options you put up are older models r8 - v8 for example
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Old 26th April 2017, 11:46 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Fanboi's do what fanboi's do.
As do trolls. The fact you think a V8 Vantage can do what a GTR does says it all LOL
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Old 26th April 2017, 11:53 AM   #13 (permalink)
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As do trolls. The fact you think a V8 Vantage can do what a GTR does says it all LOL
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Old 26th April 2017, 12:11 PM   #14 (permalink)
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What exactly does a GTR do? If you think the Nurburgring lap time has a big influence you need to recalibrate. The GTR is just as compromised as anything else out there, it's only top of your own list of criteria.
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Old 26th April 2017, 12:19 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I think it would be top of a lot of peoples list for £35k - over them cars you listed

Looks better than most
Quicker than all ( maybe needs a remap )
more practical than most
Handles better
More tuneable than all ( bang for buck )
Holds its value
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Old 26th April 2017, 12:45 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Your kidding right?

Good luck finding one for 35k that isn't a cat D.
It isn't refined in any way, its noisy, clunky and low on equipment
It can't tow, M5 can
Rear legroom is less than the Porsche
Want 4 doors and a fast car? M5/RS6/C63
Aural pleasure V6 turbo Vs V8 n/a? (Vantage/C63/R8)
Faster - in whose hands? You think that ring time will make a difference on the road? Behave.
Track driving (Ultima by some margin, even a cheap one)
RS6 is a remap away from 700hp, V10 twin turbo.
Badge? Nissan or Porsche...

Like I said, it depends on your criteria, everything is compromised, nothing is perfect. For instance i would not buy a GTR as a daily driver, i would be putting up with it if I did.
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LMFAO - this list has a certain amount of humour to it

RS6 - Good motor and very capable, still big money for a second hand one
M3 slow, numb, boring, no more practical than the GT-R
M5 numb and boring, fairly practical though
C63 slow but sounds amazing
996 Turbo - old, looks like an 80's golf inside, not very practical but can shift!!!
R8 - Sit in a TT and spot the difference, slow V8 and dating horribly
Ultima GTR - pahahaha sure use this practical and fun on the road pahahaha
Noble - see above!
Exige - again see above..... and if you are over 6ft and of a significant build good luck getting out of it with any dignity
Vantage - Mondeo in a fancy body, slow, shit gearbox, not very practical, just good for old farts to pose in
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Well bang goes my R35 caravan holiday plans.
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Old 26th April 2017, 12:58 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Is your GTR your only car?

If not, most of your criteria is redundant. If it is, then there are more important things than performance.
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M3, no more practical. It has 4 doors and legroom...
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