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Old 23rd March 2006, 12:29 PM   #41 (permalink)
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It's a modified stock one very similar to the Nismo one which I have just bought and will soon be fitting to my motor. They just add the central vertical walls with swinging gates. Nothing that a decent fabricator couldn't knock up.
I just didn't want the low ground clearance of the trust sump. Great for a drag car but not my cup of tea for sleeping policeman or track kerbs.
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Old 23rd March 2006, 12:35 PM   #42 (permalink)
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So how well would a tomei baffle be able to cope with high G constant corners? I mean with out the trust extension?
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Old 23rd March 2006, 06:04 PM   #43 (permalink)
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my trust extention has just turned up from Japan, getttin it fitted for 20 cash. great havin mates who got weldin company. And company that can ally weld will be able to fit it mate. Get stuck Pm me ill see what my mate can sort out.


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Old 23rd March 2006, 08:19 PM   #44 (permalink)
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my trust extention has just turned up from Japan, getttin it fitted for 20 cash. great havin mates who got weldin company. And company that can ally weld will be able to fit it mate. Get stuck Pm me ill see what my mate can sort out.


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Damn, I paid £200 to get mine welded! They did a lovely job, cutting the sump, welding it inside and outside and cleaned all the welds/finished it all off properly as well as welding the baffle. When you say "getting it fitted" I presume you mean with the sump off the car!

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Old 24th March 2006, 12:54 PM   #45 (permalink)
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yes mate, for £200 i hope they did do a good job, engine is 100% stripped at the mo, taking it to abbey for mark to measure and fit nismo main and big end bearings.
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Old 24th March 2006, 01:23 PM   #46 (permalink)
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You ever tried to take an RB26 out?
I have - me and my brother can do it in an hour and a half

Took about a week to get it back in though - bloody twin plate clutches
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Old 24th March 2006, 01:27 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Old 24th March 2006, 03:09 PM   #48 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=Pikey]I have - me and my brother can do it in an hour and a half

Didnt u find that the front diff got stuck against the subframe?
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Old 24th March 2006, 03:22 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Nooo, you just have to wiggle it a bit..
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I personally dont see the pros of the extended sump. I agree that there is a lot more oil but if you have an oil cooler you already have approx 2 ltrs extra. What you should be looking for is the baffles and perhaps a longer pick up.

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i've been getting a bit confused over it.

if you extend the sump and then add the extra oil surely there is still going to be room for the oil to move so your not gaining anything. wouldnt it be better to just top the oil up slightly higher than norm?
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I might be wrong in my thinking, but if u over fill, on hard cornering, wont some of the oil run up the out side of the bores causing it to smoke? or the bottom of the piston slappin the oil when at its lowest point of the stroke?


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I personally dont see the pros of the extended sump. I agree that there is a lot more oil but if you have an oil cooler you already have approx 2 ltrs extra. What you should be looking for is the baffles and perhaps a longer pick up.

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You can't get a longer pickup, the stock one is as long as the sump will allow. The Trust sump comes with a longer pickup as the sump is lower, it also comes with a circular baffle which surrounds the pickup protecting against oil starvation. The extra oil capacity is not only good generally but the sump holds far more oil than the stock item with or without uprated baffles. Ask James (Bladerider) about the pros and cons of the two options....
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Exactly what Peter said. And if you have a cooler that holds 2ltr's are you sure you haven't been filling the INTER cooler by mistake

With the extra depth of the extension the pick up is sitting under and extra 2" of oil, virtually elimantaing the chance of it taking a gulp of fresh air due to cornering/accelleration. Also if the sump holds an extra 2 ltr's of oil then the "work" is being spread across more oil, therefore using it less hard.
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I lost a 6k Cossie engine at Mallery . I would want more than just a baffle in a standard sump if I was gonna go there in anything RB26 powered.

Got the Trust kit on the R33. Because it makes the sump hang a couple of inches lower than standard I'm getting some sort of 'crash bar' fitted around the front of the sump so it's offered some protection...
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One solution to the whole problem of oil stravation would be to run a dry sump. Is that available for the RB26?

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Old 28th March 2006, 03:01 PM   #57 (permalink)
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im not sure how that would work as the diff is house in the sump
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Old 28th March 2006, 03:13 PM   #58 (permalink)
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sorry for the hijack

am i reading right, to remove the sump is an engine out job?

if so, aside an oil cooler, what else can i do to protect the car on track (the ring etc) without breaking the bank?

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its a very valid question.

what i dont get and i am stupid so bear with me! all the people that hve gone to the ring over the past years, do all them have sump extensions and what bout the people who do the odd trackday, do they?

the last thing i want is for my engine to go bang but having to spend £2k for a sump extension just to get on the odd trackday makes me think twice bout my car
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DIY mook im sure you can probably remove the subframe and do it that way?

Luffy so you was quoted 2k? sod that man, im sure it can be done for half that... try and find a good place who will remove your engine, take the sump off yourself and take to a ally welder get them to do the job... bring it back and fit it on and ask them to put your engine back in the car.
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