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Old 10th July 2017, 03:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Front brakes needs replacement

Front brakes are on the min thickness. 72 months service due so thinking of getting it done at the same time? Any particular rotors/pads combination you guys recommend. They are all very pricey so while I am paying this much won't mind paying a bit extra for an upgrade if there is one you guys recommend. pls advise.
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What is the car used for? Any track days?

Ferrodo DS2500 for road and occasional track.
Pagid RS29 for track
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What do you call min thickness? If they're not cracked to **** they are probably fine.
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Old 11th July 2017, 12:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Btw, R35 brakes are the biggest rip off going, especially discs, so you won't find anything priced with a normal fair profit margin, but you probably already know that.

Occasionaly NHPC's sell off stock at a good price on ebay auctions, I managed to get a set of new stock discs for 400 quid (still a rip off but half the normal rip off).

Ps. it's not that I'm tight, I just despise blatent rip offs.
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Btw, R35 brakes are the biggest rip off going, especially discs, so you won't find anything priced with a normal fair profit margin, but you probably already know that.

Occasionaly NHPC's sell off stock at a good price on ebay auctions, I managed to get a set of new stock discs for 400 quid (still a rip off but half the normal rip off).

Ps. it's not that I'm tight, I just despise blatent rip offs.
Completely agree, just crazy the prices they try and charge
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Am surprised no company has brought out, some decent priced brake disks for the R35 yet. or even the tuners.. As if good, everyone would be buying them and they would clean up! gap in the market??
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Am surprised no company has brought out, some decent priced brake disks for the R35 yet. or even the tuners.. As if good, everyone would be buying them and they would clean up! gap in the market??
They are also joining the same club, oem discs are worth their weight in silver. Alcon or AP charges are almost half that price, that's as much as you can get.
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What do you call min thickness? If they're not cracked to **** they are probably fine.
They aren't cracked yet, but Sly said in last years service it won't last long, may be a couple of thousand miles which has been done now.

I don't want to replace it if there is any life left. I would rather spend that money on stage 1.
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What is the car used for? Any track days?

Ferrodo DS2500 for road and occasional track.
Pagid RS29 for track
No track day, everyday usage with occasional hard braking.
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I am always suspicious when someone says there are a couple of thousand miles left in a pair of disks, if they are that close the the edge then they are ready to be changed.

is there an obvious lip around the edge of the disc, is there very obvious cracking around the vents? if not they are probably fine.

get a micro meter on them (can be done without taking the wheels off) and get a measurement to see what the actual thickness is, compare to what is in the book and make a replacement decision on the back of that information.

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New thicknesses are 34 front and 30 rear.

So they need replacing at 32 and 28 respectively.
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New thicknesses are 34 front and 30 rear.

So they need replacing at 32 and 28 respectively.
Is that for DBA or CBA? Or are they same? I read it somewhere it is different, DBAs are thinner. My GTR is DBA.
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I am always suspicious when someone says there are a couple of thousand miles left in a pair of disks, if they are that close the the edge then they are ready to be changed.

is there an obvious lip around the edge of the disc, is there very obvious cracking around the vents? if not they are probably fine.

get a micro meter on them (can be done without taking the wheels off) and get a measurement to see what the actual thickness is, compare to what is in the book and make a replacement decision on the back of that information.

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There is a visible lip but no cracks yet.
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They aren't cracked yet, but Sly said in last years service it won't last long, may be a couple of thousand miles which has been done now.

I don't want to replace it if there is any life left. I would rather spend that money on stage 1.
You would be well placed to do what Sly has suggested, his approach and reputation is NOT to recommend work unless there is a real need for it.

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Is that for DBA or CBA? Or are they same? I read it somewhere it is different, DBAs are thinner. My GTR is DBA.

Never heard that before.
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Never heard that before.
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Nissan GT-R Brake Rotor Upgrades 2009 - 2013 - 2009gtr.com

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The Nissan GT-R is a very hard car on brakes. At 4000 lbs with driver and fuel, stock front 380 mm x 34 mm 2009-2011(US) or 390 mm x 32.8 mm (2012-2013), Brembo rotors crack around the cross drilling with hard use.

This makes me think if DBA brakes are thinner compared to CBA.
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the DBA disks were increased in diameter not width
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There is a visible lip but no cracks yet.
Yep, 09/10 cars have 380 x 34 discs, 11+ have 390 x 32.8mm, rear discs are the same on all models.

If they have no cracks around the cross drilled holes they've had an easy life.

A lip is normal, I wouldn't be changing them if they aren't cracked, garages have to advise, but in reality they will perform fine even if slightly under text book minimum thickness.
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I'm having AP grooved discs and Ferrodo DS2500 pads installed tomorrow at ACspeedtech. Seem to get decent feedback on here and were recommended to me by AC also. I can report back once they're bedded in if you like?
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to be fair for the kind of use describe any replacements will be fine - even standard, so then it is kind of just which is the cheapest option.

I went with Alcon discs and cosworth pads - my use is pretty much the same as the OP
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