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Old 23rd July 2017, 07:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Autowatch ghost - be aware when tuning

Wanted to share some helpful info. Had my car in with Kaizer updating the maps from v4 to v6.

We hit a snag where after the map had been deleted the new ones wouldn't load due to the ghost immobiliser. Unfortunately because the ecu was blank it wasn't even possible to access the ecu. I had essentially managed to brick my car.

In the end, the only way we were able to update the map and fix the issue was by locating the ghost and physically removing it. Everything was fine after it was removed, maps work great and the ghost was reinstalled and working fine.

Just to be clear, I think the ghost is a great product and still use it. This is just an FYI so people don't end up in the same situation. Ended up costing me an extra 200 quid in t&m.

So if you're doing any tuning work make sure you manually set the ghost into valet mode (this was what I was told I should have done by autowatch) or youll end up in the same situation as me.

Thanks to everyone at autowatch and sly at kaizer.

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Wanted to share some helpful info. Had my car in with Kaizer updating the maps from v4 to v6.

We hit a snag where after the map had been deleted the new ones wouldn't load due to the ghost immobiliser. Unfortunately because the ecu was blank it wasn't even possible to access the ecu. I had essentially managed to brick my car.

In the end, the only way we were able to update the map and fix the issue was by locating the ghost and physically removing it. Everything was fine after it was removed, maps work great and the ghost was reinstalled and working fine.

Just to be clear, I think the ghost is a great product and still use it. This is just an FYI so people don't end up in the same situation. Ended up costing me an extra 200 quid in t&m.

So if you're doing any tuning work make sure you manually set the ghost into valet mode (this was what I was told I should have done by autowatch) or youll end up in the same situation as me.

Thanks to everyone at autowatch and sly at kaizer.

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Hi mate I'm glad you posted this as I thought I was the only person it happened to ...never felt so much panic when it happened to me unfortunately I did show a tuner how to enable valet mode and told him make sure you do this before you ecu flash the car but 15 minutes later had a phone call the car was dead in layby and had to get a lift to the car and disconnect it again right pain in the a***


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Old 23rd July 2017, 09:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I reflash bikes and there is a warning about imobilisers and the possibility of bricking ecus.

Quite easily done!.
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Did you add anything else to the car James or was it just an ecutek update...notice any difference when it was done...
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Wanted to share some helpful info. Had my car in with Kaizer updating the maps from v4 to v6.

We hit a snag where after the map had been deleted the new ones wouldn't load due to the ghost immobiliser. Unfortunately because the ecu was blank it wasn't even possible to access the ecu. I had essentially managed to brick my car.

In the end, the only way we were able to update the map and fix the issue was by locating the ghost and physically removing it. Everything was fine after it was removed, maps work great and the ghost was reinstalled and working fine.

Just to be clear, I think the ghost is a great product and still use it. This is just an FYI so people don't end up in the same situation. Ended up costing me an extra 200 quid in t&m.

So if you're doing any tuning work make sure you manually set the ghost into valet mode (this was what I was told I should have done by autowatch) or youll end up in the same situation as me.

Thanks to everyone at autowatch and sly at kaizer.

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This proves that the ghost does what it says on the tin which is stop the ecu from being hacked, the cloning of of keys, I advise all my customers that this will cause issues if any mapping work is going to be done and I wire it differently and advise the customer what to do in this case. It may have caused inconvenience and scared you and anyone it's happened to but It's proved that it'll save your cars ecu from being hacked. Glad you got it sorted.
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Did you add anything else to the car James or was it just an ecutek update...notice any difference when it was done...
It was mostly to have the Bluetooth dongke installed as I've thrown a couple of trivial error codes (e.g flat tyre) recently and since I didn't have an ecutek cable I was bored having to go to sky to have it read / reset.

The new maps are definitely smoother and the idle is alot more stable. The v4 maps chucked a little because they didn't know how to idle with the larger injectors. I had been considering going 4.25 but the talk of the fuel stink actually put me off. Wife hates the car already and don't want to give her any more reasons.

Has your new baby arrived yet?

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Thanks for the heads up. I have a tracker but am definitely interested in the Ghost system in the future.
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Thanks for the heads up. I have a tracker but am definitely interested in the Ghost system in the future.
Can't recommend it highly enough. Feel much more secure knowing you couldn't take my car even if you had the keys.

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Hi. Must the car be in valet mode or can I just enter the normal code before remapping?
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Hi. Must the car be in valet mode or can I just enter the normal code before remapping?
Hi if you don't mind sharing your code with the tuner then you can give him the code and he can enter the code each time he wants to start your vehicle and map or if you don't wish to release your code then you can put it into valet/service mode but this will only stay active for one mile of driving 30mph or under or 2minutes of driving over 30mph. If the vehicle is going to be dyno'd and mapped then I don't advise service mode, we always ask our customer in advance to installation whether they are going to be having any tuning work done in the future and install it differently so this issue doesn't arise. But main thing is that the Ghost immobiliser system works and does what it's designed to do and does it extremely well which is protect the issues from being hacked
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A week on Saturday, I’m booked in at Litchfields to have me car upgraded from stage 3 to 4, as I have a ghost fitted and a tracker by you Rabs will this be ok or can I not do it now? Feel a bit scared now lol.

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Hi. Must the car be in valet mode or can I just enter the normal code before remapping?
Hi if you don't mind sharing your code with the tuner then you can give him the code and he can enter the code each time he wants to start your vehicle and map or if you don't wish to release your code then you can put it into valet/service mode but this will only stay active for one mile of driving 30mph or under or 2minutes of driving over 30mph. If the vehicle is going to be dyno'd and mapped then I don't advise service mode, we always ask our customer in advance to installation whether they are going to be having any tuning work done in the future and install it differently so this issue doesn't arise. But main thing is that the Ghost immobiliser system works and does what it's designed to do and does it extremely well which is protect the issues from being hacked <img src="https://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smilie" class="inlineimg" />
Thanks for the reply! Mine was installed about a year ago in the "normal" way as didn't have any plans around mapping but now I do. I assume as long as the code is entered it should be fine? Or will the ghost need to be reinstalled slightly differently for the map?
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Thanks for the reply! Mine was installed about a year ago in the "normal" way as didn't have any plans around mapping but now I do. I assume as long as the code is entered it should be fine? Or will the ghost need to be reinstalled slightly differently for the map?
If your just having a generic map put on where no dyno'ing is required or road mapping then service mode is fine but otherwise I would highly recommend the ghost be removed and refitted to accommodate the mapping without any issues. You can call me 07973733441 if you want to discuss it further.
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If your just having a generic map put on where no dyno'ing is required or road mapping then service mode is fine but otherwise I would highly recommend the ghost be removed and refitted to accommodate the mapping without any issues. You can call me 07973733441 if you want to discuss it further.
Hi Takamo Iíve heard the ghost now comes with anti hijack is this on the GTR?
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Hi Takamo Iíve heard the ghost now comes with anti hijack is this on the GTR?
Hi fella, the ghost has always had antihijack feature but it will only be work on certain vehicles that the can system will allow the software to allow the function, unfortunately the GTRs can system is not compatible with the antihijack system. The ghost activates the automatic speed locking on all the models of gtr as an extra feature.
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Ok thanks for the reply shame it can’t do this but will be getting it anyway.
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