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Old 5th January 2018, 08:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My suffering in the rebuilding R33 gtr

About 3 years ago I bought my first R33 gtr here in Belgium.

The car was pretty good but there were some clutch problems little rust etc .

So I planned a full rebuild .
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Old 5th January 2018, 08:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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So I stripped the car completely
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Than I got the car to a sand blasting company .
I wanted to let the bottom of the car completely sandblasted so all rust was gone and I could start from good metal everywhere .

Result the idiots sand blasted the complete car making big dents in the roof side pannels etc .

But the bottom they didn't sand blasted enough so there was alot of unercout remaining .

This was the start of all troubles .
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After getting the car back I imediatly sprayed epoxy coat on it .

The day after I called the idiots from the sand blasting company that they distroyed my car , they said the didn't do anything wrong and that there wasn't written on the order to not sandblast the roof etc while I got this on a recording at my phone that I specially told they didn't may do that .

So I went to court with these problems .

Now 3 year later its still a running case .

And I cant do anything to my car as long as this isn't solved .

So I was getting tired of waiting and bought a R35 gtr
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also I started rebuilding other parts from the R33 gtr subframe etc

this is the subframe after getting is powdercouted again
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So no I was getting tired of waiting and I foud a R33 GTR with rear crah dmg and no eng etc I bought this one to build up again while waiting for my other R33 to start .

Pics coming soon
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How much did the sandblasting cost, if you don't mind me asking? Thinking about doing the same to mine.
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How much did the sandblasting cost, if you don't mind me asking? Thinking about doing the same to mine.
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it was 1500£ alot tu much for the bad job they did !!!!
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How much did the sandblasting cost, if you don't mind me asking? Thinking about doing the same to mine.
Whoa there, hold your horses on that one!

Don't let anyone sand blast anything on your car other than the subframes or heavy parts. It has no place for automotive restoration. The only suitable way to blast clean car bodies is very gently with crushed walnut shell. Even then, it has to be done carefully and sympathetically as too much pressure or speed will result in the same panel damage as the OP has suffered. Sand blasting stresses the metal and causes it to shrink and stretch resulting in 'oil canning' of the panels which, even in skilled hands, very rarely comes out. Seriously, do plenty of research on this as you will get burned if you make a wrong decision. Your car, your choice.

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Whoa there, hold your horses on that one!

Don't let anyone sand blast anything on your car other than the subframes or heavy parts. It has no place for automotive restoration. The only suitable way to blast clean car bodies is very gently with crushed walnut shell. Even then, it has to be done carefully and sympathetically as too much pressure or speed will result in the same panel damage as the OP has suffered. Sand blasting stresses the metal and causes it to shrink and stretch resulting in 'oil canning' of the panels which, even in skilled hands, very rarely comes out. Seriously, do plenty of research on this as you will get burned if you make a wrong decision. Your car, your choice.

Sympathy to the OP for suffering at the hands of idiots.
Yes , I wont let them do it again .
I do found ppl who can repair the roof and side pannels but they cant start as long as the case isn't solved at court .
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First time tested zinc plating my own parts
2 metal parts from my throttlebodies .
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Here some pics from the other R33 gtr body I bought .

Finaly A R33 gtr with no rear wind screen wiper .

Somebody made a little boom boom at the rear
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Took the hood locking system off and sandblasted it now its in my zinc plating installation hope it wil work
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here my made trust splitter
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little update today while waiting on new plating salts
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Where about in Belgium are you? I’d love to bring my 33 out here to Brussels at some point if I can before my contract ends, but the roads and driving in Brussels is very questionable at times!

Sorry to hear about the issues you have had, least the R35 makes things abit bettee. I do miss mine
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Where about in Belgium are you? I’d love to bring my 33 out here to Brussels at some point if I can before my contract ends, but the roads and driving in Brussels is very questionable at times!

Sorry to hear about the issues you have had, least the R35 makes things abit bettee. I do miss mine
I live arround Hasselt .
Yes Brussels isn't really the place I want to be with a nice car
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Whoa there, hold your horses on that one!

Don't let anyone sand blast anything on your car other than the subframes or heavy parts. It has no place for automotive restoration. The only suitable way to blast clean car bodies is very gently with crushed walnut shell. Even then, it has to be done carefully and sympathetically as too much pressure or speed will result in the same panel damage as the OP has suffered. Sand blasting stresses the metal and causes it to shrink and stretch resulting in 'oil canning' of the panels which, even in skilled hands, very rarely comes out. Seriously, do plenty of research on this as you will get burned if you make a wrong decision. Your car, your choice.

Sympathy to the OP for suffering at the hands of idiots.
Apologies; I should have clarified. Mediablasting, not necessarily sandblasting. Walnut, soda, something that wont cause more harm than good. I'm not looking to add more work and setback to the project
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Ah good, I just wanted to make you aware (just in case you weren't) of the pitfalls of it. You've obviously done sufficient research
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Skyline related :

Best to do sandblasting on underfloor, engine bay, inner wheels, where you have material thickness, that is if you are starting from bare shell.

On outer body panels you check material thickness. If you find the car is first paint, you go with Chemical paint strippers as it is the fastest way. If the car was painted a few times or had accident damage and has loads of material you need to remove it mechanically, old school with abrasives, sandpaper etc.

When talking about mediablasting with walnut, soda, glass, korund (Al2O3) and other stuff. IMHO thats for restoring older cars with higher value then Skylines. Not saying this isnt the best route, but it will cost considerably more, it will take more time, and my key question is will a person doing it by himself bring the project to the end at this standard. From my expirience most people starting a project will go all out on start, spend to much money and then lower the standar as time goes by. Reason - lack of expirience

You have to take into account that you will spend between 1000-1200 hours before finishing the car. If doing it after work as a hobby it will take you 3-4 years to finish it, and thats alot of work and dedication. If you spend to much on start, there is a higher chance that you will go out of money or steam. At this point you will sell a shell thats done perfectly with a few parts attached for 50-60% of what you paid the car, or you will sell everything in parts.

So either be wise, or i envy you as money is no problem Beside money you need to take time into consideration. You will be happy if you build your car within 12-18 months. After that timespan you will fasten things up as you want to drive and loose your build standard, or you will run out of time, or your family will give you trouble for not finishing it
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