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Old 15th April 2019, 04:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Is Vspec worth it?

Hi everyone I'm new to this skyline forum used to be on a couple others that weren't GTR related

Anyway I'm currently in the middle of getting ready to buy my dream car the R33 GTR I'm going to import one through torque GT (used them a couple times now) and just wondering is the R33 GTR Vspec worth it, as there are a couple non Vspec's I could get and wasn't sure if it was worth waiting for a Vspec to come up or not as there is a stunning midnight purple gtr I could get that is non vspec but is mint has 64k miles on it and top grade just after some info if I should wait or pass up getting this midnight purple non vspec gtr?

By the way I would never track the car I would probably go to some RWYB drag days at santa pod but that would be it.

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non v-spec is a quicker car on the circuit. TBH with 33's there has never really been a big divide between models like what you see on the R34 for example.

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Old 15th April 2019, 05:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thank you for replying to my message, out of curiosity how come the non-vspec is quicker on the circuit?

I'm divided between two R33's a 51K series 3 white gtr or a series 1 65K midnight purple really stuck between the two.

Is there any difference in spec other than exterior and interior between the series 1 and 3 models?
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The only meaningfull difference between Vspec and non Vspec is the rear A-LSD.

Can tell you my Vspec goes well with it, but don´t know how would it be against a non-vspec.

Suspension and stuff will most likely be aftermarket so... wouldn´t look it as a difference to be honest.

To know a bit more from different R33 series take a look into the following link:

One Man's Lonely Adventures In His R33 Skyline GT-R: How a Series 3 BCNR33 is Different From the Other R33 GT-Rs
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IMO go over condition of the car/chassis rather than it being a v-spec or not. A series 3 does have some advantages and Aki’s blog is good at covering it
The differences for road driving will more than likely not be noticed by most drivers
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Old 15th April 2019, 07:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the info guys, yeah so basically as reading that link and from others of you have said there really is not difference other than the cosmetic things

I think as mentioned because there isn't much difference in any of them it would be best to just go for which ever I can find is the best condition going

I noticed it mentioned when braking in the series 3 only the outer lights light up, but with the side lights on do all four lights still light up?
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Thank you for replying to my message, out of curiosity how come the non-vspec is quicker on the circuit?

I'm divided between two R33's a 51K series 3 white gtr or a series 1 65K midnight purple really stuck between the two.

Is there any difference in spec other than exterior and interior between the series 1 and 3 models?
I am also curious about this, the main changes between the VSpec and standard are suspension and the LSD. VSpec has stiffer suspension, the A-LSD on the VSpec is mostly just a marketing thing as the engineers ran out of time/ability to care and just plumbed the TPS signal to the A-LSD so it's an open diff off throttle and locks up progressively with more throttle.
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Anyway I'm currently in the middle of getting ready to buy my dream car the R33 GTR I'm going to import one through torque GT (used them a couple times now) and just wondering is the R33 GTR Vspec worth it, as there are a couple non Vspec's I could get and wasn't sure if it was worth waiting for a Vspec to come up or not as there is a stunning midnight purple gtr I could get that is non vspec but is mint has 64k miles on it and top grade just after some info if I should wait or pass up getting this midnight purple non vspec gtr?

By the way I would never track the car I would probably go to some RWYB drag days at santa pod but that would be it.

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The search function is your friend r33brett, Clicky the linky below!

https://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/448690-v...rgument-3.html

That topic above has real world Owner and Tuner experiences and actual video footage showing you the exact performance differences between V-Spec and non V-Spec BNR33's!

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I suspect that the R33 normal vs VSpec distinction only matters if:

1. You have no plans of ever changing out the rear diff.
2. You have no plans of ever installing coilovers.

If you plan on keeping the car completely stock to stock in that regard then yes the VSpec is going to turn better at the cost of comfort and the diff might be a little better tuned (not magic though, Nissan never actually plumbed any sensor beyond TPS to the A-LSD).

I suspect not a lot of people will actually do those two things.
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oh... i always thought the A-LSD is like evo AYC, torque vectoring...
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Condition is king, it's just a sticker on the boot, in real terms there is no difference, the non Vspec has a stronger diff, so if you want a weaker diff buy the Vspec! Suspension will more than likely have been changed anyway, so buy the best condition one you can get, I can recommend torque gt too, I bought mine from them.
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Absolutely irrelevant boot lid sticker. 99.9% of owners would not be able to tell the difference on road or track.
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Absolutely irrelevant boot lid sticker. 99.9% of owners would not be able to tell the difference on road or track.
The VSpec stock to stock is noticeably stiffer.

But half of the cars I see out there are running coilovers anyways.

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oh... i always thought the A-LSD is like evo AYC, torque vectoring...
If Nissan had actually plumbed the sensors correctly and set up a proper controller then it could've had a true torque vectoring effect, the A-LSD allows for precise control of how much lock-up to command at the rear diff. Some of the Super Taikyu cars AFAIK actually have the A-LSD set up properly to work as a torque vectoring system.

BMW's "M Active Differential" is the same sort of system for what it's worth.
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Absolutely irrelevant boot lid sticker. 99.9% of owners would not be able to tell the difference on road or track.
This made me laugh and I guess like you say most just couldn't tell
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The Std GT-R's 12.551 v's a V-Spec's 12.375 in a 0 to 400m Test....

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This made me laugh and I guess like you say most just couldn't tell
Yup! What normal Mortal person can when the performance differences are so slight (only 0.176 of a second between the two model Skylines) on the extreme limit?!
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