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Old 29th April 2019, 10:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all.

I viewed an R35 last night, on face value it was amazing, immaculate, history, drove superbly, all the boxes ticked..

Then i done some research.

I called kaiser motorsport to enquire if they had any service history on the vehicle as it was serviced with them in march.

It has an outstanding quote fo roughly £4300.00 to be done as advisories before they will put a warranty on it..
im not going to run a car like this without a warranty..

the list is mainly service items,
front/rear discs and pads
something with the under tray
rear shock
rear anti roll bar
and bellhouseing

now where do i stand with this with regards to the sale of the vehicle, the next buyer would surely just do the same as me, unless there a complete idiot, and im not about to buy a car at the asking price and spend 4.5k on it to get it up to standard..

what would you do ?
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Old 29th April 2019, 11:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Highlight the known issues to the seller and see if they will amend the price accordingly (of course, these issues may have been rectified by somewhere else in the meantime ...).

Also, warranty on one of these is 50/50. It is useful if a big item goes but the only thing that may have been covered out of the list you mention is the bell-housing and the cost of replacing one of those is likely less than the warranty itself. It could be worthwhile self-warrantying (i.e. saving the money for the warranty in a separate bank account, for a rainy day). Either could end up costing you so speak to Sly about whether he thinks that the vehicle requires a warranty - remember, a warranty is underwritten, like insurance, so the tuner may not have much say at all as to whether or not it pays out ...
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Sounds like they want to cover all aspects of what potentially could/would need replacing under a warranty before issuing a warranty.
None of the above are drastic and shouldn’t put you off buying; if you’re concerned, simply pay a premium at a dealership for one with a warranty.
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Old 29th April 2019, 11:21 AM   #4 (permalink)
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thanks guys, its more to do with the cost against the value of the car im more concerned with, i have no probs with the work that needs to be done, its all fairly simple stuff anyway,

if it was you selling the car would you be prepared to knock £4300.00 off the asking price.

or another way would you buy a car for good money knowing it will need all that done in the coming months.
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thanks guys, its more to do with the cost against the value of the car im more concerned with, i have no probs with the work that needs to be done, its all fairly simple stuff anyway,

if it was you selling the car would you be prepared to knock £4300.00 off the asking price.

or another way would you buy a car for good money knowing it will need all that done in the coming months.


Personally no I wouldn’t as these are common advisories.
Warranties aren’t worth the paper they’re written on most times, especially on wear and tear items.
How far do you go; it can be advised that you’re engine or box is at risk if you forget to warm it up or if it isn’t serviced by xy or z at a particular time scale; potential cost £15k; should a seller be expected to deduct this amount.
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Personally no I wouldn’t as these are common advisories.
Warranties aren’t worth the paper they’re written on most times, especially on wear and tear items.
How far do you go; it can be advised that you’re engine or box is at risk if you forget to warm it up or if it isn’t serviced by xy or z at a particular time scale; potential cost £15k; should a seller be expected to deduct this amount.
I absolutely see your point, and i agree to an extent..

but knowing id need to lay out that amount of money within the next 6 months is potentially putting me off the car, i could add that on and look for a newer one with all this in place..

dilemma !! lol
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Is the car top money for the condition etc? Would you have gone to look at it if it was 4k more?
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Is the car top money for the condition etc? Would you have gone to look at it if it was 4k more?
The car was in the price range i would expect for the age and condition,
I wouldn't expect to view any car priced as it should be then requiring a lot of expensive service items to be needed, i expect the owner is in between a rock and a hard place..

either potentially cut the losses on the sale or get the work done and try to claw back as much as possible, which would price the car unrealistic for the year..

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Most cars I looked at (8 in total) needed new discs/pads either front/rear - due to inner lipping on the discs, and also had Bellhousing rattle. So that's £2k minimum before looking at split undertrays and/or missing bolts which can easily run up to £00's more. Worth negotiating down the price and hopefully you can strike a deal.
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Most cars I looked at (8 in total) needed new discs/pads either front/rear - due to inner lipping on the discs, and also had Bellhousing rattle. So that's £2k minimum before looking at split undertrays and/or missing bolts which can easily run up to £00's more. Worth negotiating down the price and hopefully you can strike a deal.
Hopefully.. we will see
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I feel its hard to comment not knowing the year, mileage, price, model etc.
is this the first car you have seen? If you can post the details then you may get a more informed answer. Btw not every buyer does the checks you have done so could buy the car and then find out later what's actually needed.
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maybe the seller had the work done else where. either way if it were me I would speak to the seller highlight what you have discovered and negotiate a deal.
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I feel its hard to comment not knowing the year, mileage, price, model etc.


Agree.
It's all guess work as it could be priced accordingly to the condition its in
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I think I'd have that conversation with the seller. I certainly wouldn't buy it at full whack with that amount of work outstanding, but there could be a deal to be done. It is a buyers market atm.
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Its an 09, 36,000miles
stage 1
pretty immaculate on the outside and inside.
full service history etc, as you would expect.
£33k asking price

faults on face value, misty headlights and some worn switches inside..
i did inspect the discs and asked about them as they were an mot advisory to and was told it was a harsh advisory, obvs i called kaiser and they mentioned all the other bits that were needed, again these are service items and dont bother me but knowing within the year id have to pay over £4k, i know this can be the case with any car i look at but the is the first and ive done my due diligence and found this..

He said he had been offered £31k by a dealer, (not so sure) so could go there maybe which would bring it to £35k.

Its not the money or the fact it needs the work, its more the fact it was withheld and ive found out off my own back..
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Mines for sale in the for sale section.
Full service history, 12 month mot. I've owned her for over 7 years now.
Take a look.


https://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/563161-g...mium-35-a.html
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wish you lot viewed my car then you would of known about a proper service history and prefection.
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Mines been serviced twice a year like yours Geof.
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09? What? Premium? Black Edition? With navigation?

36k miles isn’t a lot for 10 years. Sounds like neglect to me.

2p spent. Good luck.
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havent read all the posts, but i'd put the cost of 2yrs warranty (probs between 3 and 4k) in a rainy day fund. That would cover most eventualities if anything major was to fail...even rebuilding the box. Had mine 3.5yrs, it's 10yrs old and still been the most reliabke car i've ever had.... Owned a corsa, saxo, 2x imprezas, civic Type R, VX220 and TTRS.....this has cost me the least in repairs and i've owned it twice as long as all those other cars lol I got a car that had been serviced every 6 month tho.....so may be this tells a tale? Car is an 09 non nav with 53,000 miles!
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