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View Poll Results: What Brake Systems do you use??
AP Racing 90 14.24%
Alcon 41 6.49%
Brembo Racing Upgrade 48 7.59%
R33/34 Brembo upgrade 103 16.30%
Project Mu 14 2.22%
Stoptech 37 5.85%
Tarox 4 0.63%
Standard Brakes (eek!!!) 187 29.59%
Custom Brake Upgrade 23 3.64%
Other (Please Specify) 85 13.45%
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Old 19th March 2011, 11:10 AM   #181 (permalink)
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Ilegal here too but a mate of mine know's a friendly MOT man if you know what i mean Hopefully get a project going in the project section soon so i'll get pics up then, my tuner is still a bit undecided on the rears ATM but probably something 4 pot from the Dynalite range, but the fronts are on order and they are the W6A 6-Pot's with 362 x 32mm Gt rotor's he makes all his Bell's / hats inhouse on the CNC lathe. I've been in a cosworth he did with a similar set up , stood the car on it's nose time and time again!
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Old 21st March 2011, 12:47 PM   #182 (permalink)
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My new brake setup



Alcon Big brake kit including 6 piston calliper and 376mm rotor



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Old 21st March 2011, 03:10 PM   #183 (permalink)
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Alcon Big brake kit including 6 piston calliper and 376mm rotor



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Are they 18 or 19 inch rims Daniel? Nice set up! Thanks.
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Old 21st March 2011, 09:11 PM   #184 (permalink)
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The wheels are VOLK TE37 18x9,5 ET12
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The wheels are VOLK TE37 18x9,5 ET12
do they give anymore caliper room than the ce28's as i can't decide which i like most.....


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Old 23rd March 2011, 03:11 PM   #186 (permalink)
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Thanks for the wheel info, would you mind sharing the caliper part number? I am wondering what depth pad it runs, and the pad area. Thanks!
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Daniel - I'm curious - what do you run on the back wheels? Thanks.

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Old 24th March 2011, 10:07 AM   #188 (permalink)
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Alcon CR6380 monobloc and if you need additional information check Specialist Brake and Clutches - Alcon Components.
They have all the technical details from this calliper in the online catalogue.

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Aki, first i love your blog and KR4 is simply the best color for a GTR

My rear brake system is nothing special. I only have some Project Mu Type HC+ pads installed.Until now i had no track time so time will tell.
But i think there is not so much difference against the normal 6 Piston AP Racing 355mm big brake kit and so i hope for good results.

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Hi Daniel,

Thanks for the response, and thanks for reading my blog! (will have to update soon... he he he). AND yes, KR4 IS The Best Colour, huh.

Reason I asked is because of the "brake balance" issue that people talk about. I've mentioned this before but when I spoke with Tamura-san of Nissan, he was saying that the best brake balance was having a rotor size of 355(F) and 322(R). Hence the later R34 models came standard with the 322 Rears, because most people who cared were going to upgrade the fronts anyway.

So - if you are upgrading to 376 in Front -then I would suspect that to maintain this balance, you'd want something larger size rotor in the back. Say, 350ish?

But heck, what do I know. The bottom line is - how does the car feel now when braking heavily? Have you tracked the car? Can you tell if the car stops better? Sorry for all the questions but I'm long overdue for a brake upgrade myself.

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Aki, sorry for the late reply. Yeah theres one rear porsche kit Ive been watching on japan yahoo for about 105,000yen for a r33 that uses the rear monoblock caliper from a 996. The same kit they are selling comes with the V36/Z34 rear rotor which is 350mmx30mm(same as the 370z one i already have) I have brand new endless CCX pads. I believe i need to already shave off about .5mm from each pad just to fit the r33 rear calipers onto them.
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Old 1st April 2011, 12:18 AM   #192 (permalink)
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I use AP Racing 6 Piston calipers with 355mm discs and EBC Yellowstuff pads. Brainded lines from HEL.

Rear setup is standart till now.

If i need new pads i think i´ll take Ferodo. Had no Tracktime with these brakes maybe i need to upgrade the rear setup maybe with DBA discs and Ferodo pads, maybe any ideas^^.

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Aki, sorry for the late reply. Yeah theres one rear porsche kit Ive been watching on japan yahoo for about 105,000yen for a r33 that uses the rear monoblock caliper from a 996. The same kit they are selling comes with the V36/Z34 rear rotor which is 350mmx30mm(same as the 370z one i already have) I have brand new endless CCX pads. I believe i need to already shave off about .5mm from each pad just to fit the r33 rear calipers onto them.
Matt - I saw that too, but didn't buy it. Here's why:
harumichi's weblog: V36???????????

If you look at the pictures in the links, you'll see the guy clearly measures the thickness of the V36 rear rotor - which is NOT 30mm, but 20mm. I don't suppose maybe the Z34 rotor is different?

I asked Miguel (at Newera) about this set up, and he recommended that one not go with this (the V36 rotor with these calipers) - because what would apparently happen is, the pistons would be at their limit as the pads wear, and without constant checking, might actually pop out of the caliper - or at minimum, begin leaking. Don't know if that makes sense, but I was wondering why here in GT-R tuning crazy Japan, no one has gone for that kit (there are two past buyers the seller posts to in Minkara, but when you read the description, they do not mention this issue. Not sure if not aware or not.)

Anyway, I think at this point you'd be better off using 360 Modena or Lotus 4 pots on the rears, as most people here in Japan have.

Would like to know if I'm wrong about the V36 rotor, obviously.
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Just bought a pair of Wilwood IR-GT 4 pots for the rear (£155 the pair with pads and mounts!!). Will be hopefully pairing these up with some 330x32 rotors and wilwood bells which allow the handbrake shoes to be kept. Not done any measuring etc yet but hopefully these bells should do the trick.

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Aki, Yeah i looked at the website you linked. I wonder if the V36 has two model rear brakes? I know in the US the 370z and G37(V36) come with 2 versions of brake packages. One with sport brakes(akebono) and non sport regular Z33 brakes kinda. Ive seen 2 other companies selling the V36 kit from Global and BFR(blue force racing) in japan. but yeah ive only seen like one or 2 cars with the actual kit installed. I think one is still for sale in japan yahoo on a BCNR33( i think it was the white one with a carbon hood from GTcar.net) If i can find a good 360 modena kit for cheap i will definitely change out. Hard to find used rear kits for less than 200,000yen and new one is 399,000yen Working on a tight military budget
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Aki, Yeah i looked at the website you linked. I wonder if the V36 has two model rear brakes? I know in the US the 370z and G37(V36) come with 2 versions of brake packages. One with sport brakes(akebono) and non sport regular Z33 brakes kinda. Ive seen 2 other companies selling the V36 kit from Global and BFR(blue force racing) in japan. but yeah ive only seen like one or 2 cars with the actual kit installed. I think one is still for sale in japan yahoo on a BCNR33( i think it was the white one with a carbon hood from GTcar.net) If i can find a good 360 modena kit for cheap i will definitely change out. Hard to find used rear kits for less than 200,000yen and new one is 399,000yen Working on a tight military budget
Matt, I checked the Nissan website, and it's unclear but I think there is only one type of V36 Coupe rotor. There ARE two versions of brake packages, but the calipers are different, no mention of differing rotors for the rear.

BTW, someone went ahead and bought that YA listing. I wonder if they'll be successful in using it - I was thinking perhaps shims or something might work.
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Thanks aki yeah i saw someone bought that porsche set. I think its the second or third one he sold now. Im still waiting for him to put another set up but i think he might be done selling them There was also a set of 360 calipers with 355mm rotors for rear r34 that sold last weekend. I was bidding on them but someone kept outbidding me and then i stopped at 96,000yen and the guy one them for like 98,000 haha. maybe next time or someday i will get a set
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Matt, agreed YA is the way to go. The Biot pricing for the 360 kit (new) is ridiculous - are those 360 calipers not available outside of Japan, do you know? Surely there has to be a decent alternative...
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Standard brembos with updated disks and pads
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Believe me, I've tried - currently running PFC race pads and the PFC rotor, with the standard Brembos (and cooling ducts and tubing directed at the calipers). Very, very good, but not quite there to RELIABLY (ie without having to count on ducted cooling) slow down our heavy cars from 280kph to 60kph, lap after lap at Fuji Speedway.
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