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Old 13th June 2012, 07:33 AM   #261 (permalink)
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maybe mount it on some alloy but I am not liking the idea of some ply wood in a race car.
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Old 13th June 2012, 09:34 AM   #262 (permalink)
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maybe mount it on some alloy but I am not liking the idea of some ply wood in a race car.
Plywood it still very much alive in motorsport Mark. I was reading a book the other day and was amazed by some of the things folks still make from ply. I'll give the alloy some thought

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I know used to work in motorsport , front splitters are the main stuff still made from Jabroc.

But to mount fuel pumps etc etc I am sure a piece of alloy or carbon will work very well.
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Old 13th June 2012, 08:34 PM   #264 (permalink)
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I'm with mark on the flexi hose - at least there's also some room for movement in a crash.

My 044's are mounted in the wheel well with twin Bosch Mk1 Golf Gti filters, swirl pot between the turrets next to the Red Top 30. All hoses BMRS.
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Having thought about it I have decided to go with the recommendation and put some hose between catchtank and filters. Ordered some hose and fittings so all is good...

Also feeling bored earlier and knocked up some MAF delete pipes...




Needed to be done at some point so rather than wait, I bit the bullet and got it done!!
Still waiting on local metal supplier to get some 1.2mm sheet in...once I have it, its full steam ahead with the boot floor fabrication and fuel system install..

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Got to work over the weekend and attacked the boot floor.....





At long last my metal supplier came good and I bought a couple of 1sqM sheets of 1.2mm mild steel. One to weld into the hole to make the boot floor completely flat, the other to make a box to hold the fuel cell and lift pumps. I intend to fold the metal rather than weld panels together. I reckon if I'm smart with the folder it should all work out OK. Got some 30x30 box section coming as well which I'm going to weld across the rear of the chassis rails for extra support.

I think this is going to all work out really well. Weight-wise I dont think there's loads in it.....the new setup is probably a wee bit lighter but if nothing else makes it tidier and more simplified in the rear. Good opportunity to mount the cell a bit further forward which can only be a good thing for mass distribution!!

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Been out in the garage all day and managed to get the boot floor plated and partly welded which I was pleased at.
Also measured and made a cradle for the fuel cell to sit in....



This will contain the cell and the two Red Top lift pumps. Obviously need to cut out a bit of the bottom to accomodate the sump but thats not a hassle. Similarly, because of the fact that the Facet pumps have the filter service ports at the 'bottom', I'm going to have to provide a service hatch for each so changing filters doesnt necessetate the removal of the pumps. Cheers Facet!!!!

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Been buying some more parts for the collection!!! Now have a Tomei sump baffle which will be fitted to my spare sump with the 4.3 CWP. A pair of new front inner balljoints were fitted today so now EVERYTHING has been changed on the front suspension other than the anti roll bar links which will be getting replaced with some adjustable rose-jointed ones.

I've managed to secure a Ross Tuffbond RACE MJ damper which I've wanted for AGES!! Will help facilitate the move to dry sump at a later date as Ross do a neat little dry sump pump drive which will bolt straight on.

Been having some issues with the mounting of the Facet lift pumps in my little container I made. Seems the fittings I want to use are too long when used with the 1/4NPT to -8AN adapters fitted to the pumps. I've now sourced some 1/4 NPT 1/2" barbs which should solve the problem (easier seen than explained!)

I'll be taking more pics soon so stay tuned!

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May I ask you to upload 1 or 2 more pictures of the front cannard fitted, they seems to sit quite high on the bumper? would it be possible to make them sit a bit lower without looking stupid?

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So, been on holiday recently and thought I'd better crack on with all things garage-related..

Been busy making enhancements to the fuel cell cradle (above) so that it will actually do the job! FIrstly I decided that, instead of cutting and fabricating a sump in the cradle to mirror the sump in the fuel cell, I would sit the cell in the cradle as-is with an appropriately sized spacer under the rear of the cell. This means that the cell is level and theres no added hassle of extra fabrication.
Needed some retaining sraps so bought some 25mm wide x 3mm thick mild steel strip which I bent into shape and attached at the rear with small hinges to allow for the removal of the cell if needs be. Also made 2 'service hatches' in the bottom rear corners of the cradle to allow for removal of the filters in the lift pumps (mentioned above). All-in-all, its come out really well and I'm well pleased. The pics below show it sitting in the hole in the floor...obviously the next step is to weld it in properly and then install lift pumps and the rest of the boot mounted fuel gear....



2 shots from the top showing the cradle in place.


Shot from underneath


Shot from underneath showing service hatches open


Shot from top showing service hatches open



Shots with fuel cell in place.

Cant wait to get it welded in (tomorrow hopefully) and get the cell and lift pumps mounted permanently... Bought a 37degree flaring tool so will be buying some 1/2" aluminium hardline and AN flare ends and making up the 2 rear-front feed pipes and the return line.

All is good in the world....well, garage, at least!!

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maybe a daft question but wouldnt it have been simpler to mount the tank the other way? so outlets facing fwd? less pipe etc.

I mounted mine that way (same way as you) because it needed the sump at the rear end to clear the subframe /chassis rail BUT yours looks to mounted a fair bit more inboard allowing more space
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oh... and the caps on the JAZ tanks are pish! The seal seems to get out of shape and makes it quite a job to refit the cap at times. We have changed ours to an extended filler to the wing - alu pipe with screw cap fitting
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maybe a daft question but wouldnt it have been simpler to mount the tank the other way? so outlets facing fwd? less pipe etc.

I mounted mine that way (same way as you) because it needed the sump at the rear end to clear the subframe /chassis rail BUT yours looks to mounted a fair bit more inboard allowing more space
Sump or no sump, id rather have the outlets at the rear...after all, under acceleration (and full power) id rather have all the fuel collecting rearwards towards the outlets than covering them with fuel under braking when it doesnt really matter. The laws of physics say that mass (and therefore liquid) transfers in the opposite direction to an accelerative force so im happy with the outlets being rear facing.
The extra piping (which will be very minimal) isnt significant in my opinion...

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Grafting away today and this is the result...




Cradle and boot floor painted inside and out, cell mounted in place and lift pumps mounted. Obviously wiring to follow but glad the physical bits out the way. My back's a bit achey from it all despite the rear end of the car being on axle stands a fair bit in the air!!
Start back to work tomorrow after a few days off so will be looking to get the swirl pot, filters and pumps dummy mounted. I had looked to use Aeroquip push-fit hose (which I feel is more than up to the job) but am erring towards using hardline as I think it might look better and cope better with the myriad bends there will no doubt be!!.
I'll sleep on it I think!

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Been hard at it today and mounted the swirl pot, filters and 044's permanently...



Im really pleased with how the boot install has turned out!! Pretty much to plan, which is a first

Doing a bit of head scratching over the pump wiring but its now just a case of fixing the new FPR on the O/S inner wing with the fuel temp sensor block, buying some 1/2 hardline and connecting it all up....
Managed to get myself a pipe bender for £20 which should do the trick. Unfortunately my small pipe bender that I use for brake lines etc just isnt big enough . The proper imperial 1/2" benders were just extortionate so I've gone for the metric ones that bend 15/22mm. Im reckoning that they should be OK. While searching for pipe benders I noticed a mandrel bender from useful tools..Cracking stuff but too expensive to justify for my needs. Just thought I'd mention it in case anyone else is looking for a good quality bender (oo-er...)

Anyway,should get the FPR done tomorrow and maybe attack some wiring thats been needing removed.

Also now in my posession is a Ross Tuffbond Race damper which I've been looking for for some time now. Cheers Wade!!!! Now all I need to do is find a trigger wheel and sensor that will be compatible. The Ross one is fine but I'm not convinced about the number of teeth on the wheel....would much prefer a 36-1 rather than the 12 tooth trigger they offer.....

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Looking good!
I have the Ross Crank Dampener on my car with their trigger wheel setup. My tuner loved it!
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Emailed them earlier to see if they offer any alternative trigger pattern. The angular resolution of a 36 tooth (or greater) will be far greater than a 12. Not saying the 12 is crap, just that id prefer more teeth....

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