R32 GTR Weight Loss Program - Page 16 - GT-R Register - Nissan Skyline and GT-R Drivers Club forum

Want to buy a banner ad? Find out more here.

Go Back   GT-R Register - Nissan Skyline and GT-R Drivers Club forum > General > Nissan Skyline > Tuning: General
Register Garage FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Insurance


Like Tree2Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 10th January 2013, 11:41 PM   #301 (permalink)
tarmac terror is Wondering why it says 'New User' below.....*confused*
New Users
 
tarmac terror's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Hampshire, but Scottish through and through!
Cars owned: Genuine R32 GTR; Genuine-ish X5 4.8iS; Completely fake BMW M6; Reasonably Genuine Peugeot 306 Rallye
Posts: 8,540
Quote:
Originally Posted by carbonfootprint View Post
As I said earlier, much much stronger composite doors as opposed to skins
Sorry, I really cant see how doors made from carbon/kevlar/glassfibre or any of the more exotic composites can make up for the R32's inherent lack of integrity in a side impact. You can strengthen doors until you're blue in the face, but that wont make up for the gossamer-like sills or B-pillar area.

TT
__________________
R32GTR- Stage 6; Frank Baxter exhaust with K-pipe; Rick Astley cams; Dave Gahan electrics; Bjorn Ulvaeus race prep; Howard Jones gearbox upgrade; Ray Charles body mods and styling. Mapped by Glenn Medeiros.------> Beat that R35 owners with dodgy parts list sigs :)
tarmac terror is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th January 2013, 11:58 PM   #302 (permalink)
Sub Boy is a nana driver
GTR.co.uk seasoned Member
 
Sub Boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: ChCh NZ
Cars owned: R32 GTR
Posts: 4,586
Quote:
Originally Posted by tarmac terror View Post
Sorry, I really cant see how doors made from carbon/kevlar/glassfibre or any of the more exotic composites can make up for the R32's inherent lack of integrity in a side impact. You can strengthen doors until you're blue in the face, but that wont make up for the gossamer-like sills or B-pillar area.

TT
^^ What he said, Better off putting in a nice Cromo-Steel Cage and running super light doors, Improve the handling of the car, and give you crash protection.
__________________
Sub Boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th January 2013, 12:54 AM   #303 (permalink)
infamous_t is drunk off pancakes
GTR.co.uk seasoned Member
 
infamous_t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Perth, West Australia
Cars owned: R32 GTR
Posts: 1,534
Yep, save money on buying carbon doors, just gut the hell out of them (for weight savings) and run a decent cage for protection
__________________
infamous_t is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Old 11th January 2013, 05:13 AM   #304 (permalink)
Adam Kindness is phu phu phu
GTR.co.uk seasoned Member
 
Adam Kindness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Aberdeen
Cars owned: R32 GTR
Posts: 4,821
TT - how are those headlight blanks coming along?
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
- Sponsored by Ultralite &
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

'81 Porsche 911 SC 3.0
'08 Navara Outlaw



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Adam Kindness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th January 2013, 10:05 AM   #305 (permalink)
carbonfootprint is unaware they can edit their status
GTR.co.uk seasoned Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 163
Couldn't agree more. I guess what I was saying is you can make a composite door significantly stronger than stock with a steel bar in it but ultimately it needs a cage to stop intrusion. It still comes down to the chassis/pillars without it.

However if you don't want a cage but want stronger lighter doors it can be done.
__________________
carbonfootprint is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th January 2013, 06:20 PM   #306 (permalink)
Big Ash is unaware they can edit their status
GTR.co.uk seasoned Member
 
Big Ash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Heathfield Sussex
Cars owned: R32GTR R33GTST
Posts: 179
Ive just removed my power steering rack today and I'm going to convert it to a manual rack. Will get a larger diameter steering wheel to help turn it. I'm going to remove the internal seals and replace the fluid with grease. This is the correct way to do it.
Will save alot of weight as no pump, reservoir or lines etc plus extra power not having to drive the pump.

If its too heavy I will install and electric steering column. At least I would have moved alot of weight rearwards if nothing else.
__________________
Big Ash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th January 2013, 07:40 PM   #307 (permalink)
jasaircraft is building heat
GTR.co.uk seasoned Member
 
jasaircraft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Uk and Bolivia
Posts: 752
I was thinking about the electric rack and steering too...
__________________
jasaircraft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th January 2013, 10:50 PM   #308 (permalink)
Big Ash is unaware they can edit their status
GTR.co.uk seasoned Member
 
Big Ash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Heathfield Sussex
Cars owned: R32GTR R33GTST
Posts: 179
Ive done a few on VW campers but not looked into the Skyline yet. will do if I need to if the manual steering is too heavy.
__________________
Big Ash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th January 2013, 11:15 PM   #309 (permalink)
nick the tubman is feeling very pleased !
Registered
 
nick the tubman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: preston
Cars owned: R35 GTR `10. R33 GTR v-spec Road & Track. R33 GTR Race Car
Posts: 2,507
i went down the electric road... weighed the electric set up against the stock.. and the electric set up, complete, was heavier and more complicated than the hydraulic set up.

additionally, the electric pump suffered from overheating and sluggishness. so i have stuck with standard system and just installed a cooler. WAY better....

saying that,, porsche have gone all electric, but it is complicated and a very very expensive conversion - so personally, i dont get it...???

what is the benefit? other a slight reduction on power drain for the engine. almost negligable on a car producing over 600hp.

adding to that, lack of "feel"...
__________________
GTR = More smiles per mile, than any other...

Last edited by nick the tubman; 26th January 2013 at 11:22 PM..
nick the tubman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th January 2013, 03:03 AM   #310 (permalink)
jasaircraft is building heat
GTR.co.uk seasoned Member
 
jasaircraft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Uk and Bolivia
Posts: 752
Is.the actual rack moved with hydraulic pressure from an electric pump or directly with an electric motor?
Maybe the mechanical one.is.better? Ligjter?
__________________
jasaircraft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th January 2013, 10:13 AM   #311 (permalink)
Big Ash is unaware they can edit their status
GTR.co.uk seasoned Member
 
Big Ash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Heathfield Sussex
Cars owned: R32GTR R33GTST
Posts: 179
Which electric system did you use? Ive used Corsa column and reckon there is probably a slight weight saving using it but not much. I have one in my shed I shall weigh it later.

Corsa Columns have an electric motor in them like this.......

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-C...item3cce578f84
__________________

Last edited by Big Ash; 27th January 2013 at 10:16 AM..
Big Ash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th February 2013, 09:59 PM   #312 (permalink)
jasaircraft is building heat
GTR.co.uk seasoned Member
 
jasaircraft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Uk and Bolivia
Posts: 752
just to remind all the whole hicas system (including brackets an bolts) on the 32 gtr is 18 kilos, this is without cutting the rear chamber of the pump, just removing its guts.
__________________
jasaircraft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th February 2013, 10:24 PM   #313 (permalink)
Big Ash is unaware they can edit their status
GTR.co.uk seasoned Member
 
Big Ash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Heathfield Sussex
Cars owned: R32GTR R33GTST
Posts: 179
Ive just converted my power steering to rack to manual. Reckon its saved loads of weight... heres how I did it...

https://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/173149-po...onversion.html

If its too heavy I will put a corsa electric column on it but I reckon it will be ok. Will find out when I get it up and running in the next month or so.
__________________
Big Ash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th February 2013, 10:38 PM   #314 (permalink)
lightspeed is mapping Infinity
GT-RDC Member
 
lightspeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: South-west
Cars owned: Project BNR32
Posts: 3,768
Quote:
"saying that,, porsche have gone all electric, but it is complicated and a very very expensive conversion - so personally, i dont get it...???

what is the benefit? other a slight reduction on power drain for the engine"
CO emissions - no engine losses from PAS in a straight line.
Got to beat the Brussels eurocrats, 0.1hp at a time !!!
__________________
lightspeed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th February 2013, 10:27 PM   #315 (permalink)
jasaircraft is building heat
GTR.co.uk seasoned Member
 
jasaircraft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Uk and Bolivia
Posts: 752
For the record, I just removed one of the small 1/4 windows of my 32gtr and it only weighs 1.5kilos, so not sure its worth making them out of polycarb...
__________________
jasaircraft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st March 2013, 09:28 PM   #316 (permalink)
freakazoid3 is a longtime addict
Registered
 
freakazoid3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Belgium
Cars owned: R32 GTR
Posts: 5,003
I cut the rear wall behind the rear seat out off my track 32, saved me a fair bit aswell, and I removed all unnecessary wires from the main loom and ran it down the middle off the car, could've made a fair bit off cash if I brought all the copper to a dismantler
__________________
R32 or R35 ?
freakazoid3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd March 2013, 12:17 AM   #317 (permalink)
jasaircraft is building heat
GTR.co.uk seasoned Member
 
jasaircraft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Uk and Bolivia
Posts: 752
Anyone know whats the rear windshield's weight?
__________________
jasaircraft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd March 2013, 11:20 AM   #318 (permalink)
tarmac terror is Wondering why it says 'New User' below.....*confused*
New Users
 
tarmac terror's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Hampshire, but Scottish through and through!
Cars owned: Genuine R32 GTR; Genuine-ish X5 4.8iS; Completely fake BMW M6; Reasonably Genuine Peugeot 306 Rallye
Posts: 8,540
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasaircraft View Post
For the record, I just removed one of the small 1/4 windows of my 32gtr and it only weighs 1.5kilos, so not sure its worth making them out of polycarb...
You clearly haven't felt the weight of a polycarb rear 1/4!!! They effectively weigh bugger all so an easy 3kgs saved by the time you also take into account the standard trim and all the evil rubber/mastic sealant you MUST be over 5kgs!!.

Biggest shock for me so far has been replacing the std doors with composite and polycarb windows. I still cannot believe just HOW heavy the std doors are.....composite doors must save a monumental amount of weight!!

TT
__________________
R32GTR- Stage 6; Frank Baxter exhaust with K-pipe; Rick Astley cams; Dave Gahan electrics; Bjorn Ulvaeus race prep; Howard Jones gearbox upgrade; Ray Charles body mods and styling. Mapped by Glenn Medeiros.------> Beat that R35 owners with dodgy parts list sigs :)

Last edited by tarmac terror; 3rd March 2013 at 11:24 AM..
tarmac terror is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd March 2013, 03:40 PM   #319 (permalink)
jasaircraft is building heat
GTR.co.uk seasoned Member
 
jasaircraft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Uk and Bolivia
Posts: 752
I will cut the polycarb 4mm sheet i have to the 1/4 size... I think it will save just a kilo ...not sure if its worth
Agree on the doors I have made one only yet 20+ kilos taken away. I made one of the side windows 1k vs 5k stock glass.
__________________
jasaircraft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st March 2013, 12:08 AM   #320 (permalink)
Adam Kindness is phu phu phu
GTR.co.uk seasoned Member
 
Adam Kindness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Aberdeen
Cars owned: R32 GTR
Posts: 4,821
Need to get the car back on some scales, but it should be near 1300kg now..

ABS gone, carbon seat, a few things removed and will go round chopping some more...
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
- Sponsored by Ultralite &
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

'81 Porsche 911 SC 3.0
'08 Navara Outlaw



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Adam Kindness is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 11:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
http://www.Tyreforums.com

tyreforums

 

Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.