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Hi, I've just joined and have a question at the risk of starting an all out ruck!

I've been saving up for a Skyline for what seems like ages, finally in a position (just) to get one.
I've just read the skyline test in Evo between the 32, 33 and 34. It was always my intent to get the 33 BUT the test suggests the 32 is loads more fun and the 33 v spec is difficult to get sideways! Sideways is the very reason I wanted a skyline (current car is an MR2 Turbo which is an admirable sideways monkey)

So any opinions? One point in the test is that the cars were standard, I wondered if the 33 was more of a sideways monster with say 400bhp? I also wondered if the non v spec was more likely to step out?

Your thoughts would be much appreciated!

Nick (soon to be owner, can't wait)
 

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Sideways?

Well firstly welcome, as for sideways ? I have a 97 V spec and I got her sideways no problem what so ever, I have since found out that she was running as rough as a monkeys butt and kicking out a mere 348 BHP so I don't think power is anything to do with it.

As for a 32 against a 33 its up to you, the shapes certainly differ (no offence to the 32's) but I prefer the modern looking 33. But the 32 was the original race design and is a lot lighter.

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Hi Ian,

Thanks for the welcome.

That was pretty much what I wanted to hear, like you my preferance goes to the 33s shape. I guess the tester wasn't trying hard enough!

Now the seamingly impossible task of finding a good example for the correct price!

Cheers

Nick:D
 

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Welcome to the board Nick .

Buying a Skyline is not just buying a very fast car that handles superbly but is also buying the best ! (IMHO)

It is a decision that once taken is hard if not impossible to change . It took me over 6 months to find mine last year and have never regretted it since !

As to getting it sideways it is not a problem if you know how but then again what car is ?
 

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Nick,

It was my R34 that was in the test (if you look closely, you'll see my cheesy grin :D ).
I was impressed by David Yu's ability as a driver, especially in the extreme conditions that were horizontal rain and spray, but I have to say that the roads chosen were so unsuited to the R33 and R34 that it was obvious the R32 would be better simply because of:

A) It's smaller size
B) Considerably less electronic intervention, so on a bumpy road like the 660, the car is confused and is constantly switching from RWD to 4WD.
C) It's lighter

Because of their gargantuan size, the 33's and 34's are suited to wide sweeping A roads and not the tight, twisty, bumpy B roads, like the 660 that we were on. They ARE intimidating cars and unless you are on a large patch of tarmac, then it's a lot of money your playing with.

I certainly would stick to the track for lairy action, as Geezajob will testify. :)

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Sideways indeedy



What you want mate is an R32 GTSt with around £4K spent on it. 350bhp, reliable, and a definate sideways monkey! He he. This is me on the way back from Santa Pod on Sunday

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Nick,
You've seen the light!!!!!!
IMHO
Don't worry yourself at this stage with the what, why, how etc
Get what you can afford, 32,33 or 34...either GTS or GT-R
IT DOESN'T MATTER
IT'S A BL***Y SKYLINE, thats all that matters
Happy motoring
wroestar
PS/ Don't forget the insurance.....it'll be a bit steep for someone your age.....that as much as anything may be the deciding factor at this stage:D
 

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Wow!

Thanks for all the replies/welcomes! Its certainly nice to here such glowing reports about a car I'm about to spend a hell of a lot of cash on!

Insurance is double what I'm paying at the moment making it £1200 ouch, but worth it i'm thinking. The main priority will be to find one that is a good example.

Thanks again for all your comments, I'll keep you posted with developments on the purchasing front, and no doubt be back to ask more questions.

Cheers

Nick
 

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Where are you?

Nick where in SE Ldn are you?

We could meet up and you could have a test drive if you wanted!

Thats when I get her back from the hospital that is...:D

...Ian
 

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nick trust me it is VERY easy to get a GTr

sideways, reagrdless of power.
If it is wet then it is even easier. the laws of physics are in your favour on this one ie large car, lots of weight, rear wheel drive until my ecu says oh hang on a minute and by that time you are plenty sideways.
There is a thread on here started by Jamie M about handling a skyline and believe me it is WELL worth reading. I think it started...I know I should not write this but....
Moral is: THEY DON'T DRIVE THEMSELEVS so please tell all those MR2, scooby and Evo owners etc out there about this.
The skyline is a racing car and not a rally car so you need plenty of room to really make it happen.

Good luck and there are some really good cars out there at the mo. How much have you got to spend? If you can get to 20K then I know a few 500 BHP cars out there, 50K ish miles, with alloys, big brakes and all the goodies.
Depends on what you want but I would start with a stage 1 first and work your way up. Believe me 350 - 400 BHP is enough to handle!!

Nick W.
 

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Nick,
You will think this sounds like the ramblings of an old fart but to get an R33 V spec (Stage 1 tune) sideways on a public road is generally considered to be bad for your life expectancy. Mine has been used daily for 2 1/2 years now plus a few track days and I am just about getting to the stage of feeling happy with the back end coming out of line when not on a track.
I have not owned a car with less than 250/300 hp for years and still find the Skyline commands more respect when coming onto the limit, largely because those limits are so much higher than with other cars, and I am not talking about an extra 5-10 mph either.
I cannot comment on the pros and cons of 32v33v34 but any of them will take apart virtually any other vehicle on any road and will leave you with a huge smile ever time you drive. But these toys are not BMW's, sliding the back end at every corner. Buy any skyline, spend some time on a track and, as the saying goes, you will not have so much fun with your trousers on!
Good Luck!
 

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Good call max and I agree...

Just last night I had a moment but after what happened with the black ice then I give the car the respect it commands.
I love getting the back out at fairly low speeds as it will snap back quickly but it is the high speeds that get the orifices moving and glowing. Getting the 33 out of shape is bad for life, the public and just everything in general. Only one place for it...the track.
Even people on the pavement seem to swerve into the road whether you are taking it easy or letting the RB26 breath. It is quite sight to see.
So be prepared for a lot of attention Nick and watch people mouth "jesus it's a bloody skyline" and to see people hanging out of their back windows on the M4 doing ali G clicks with their fingers is quite a sight for you and the gen public.
I even had one guy screetch to a halt at the traffic lights, when the lights were green, jumped in front of the car and started praying to it. Very excessive and very embarassing with a lady passenger. She was like what is all the fuss about!!!
As for 32/33/34 it was down to budget and aesthetics for me. I have always loved the 33 and I remember seeing dirk schoys run it around the ring and that was enough. Plus all the stories and legends helped!
You can never have this much fun with your trousers on.
Take it easy everyone.
Nick
 

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Ok in order,

Ian thats extremely kind of you, I'm in Blackheath, so not far from sidcup, Would love to come and have a good gander at yours, perhaps you could take me for a spin. (wouldn't want to test drive without fully comp, it is your baby after all!)

Hi Nick, I know, I've been in touch with Steve Bennett about his 500+ silver one thats advertised in here, a bit too late though and more than I'd planned to spend. Looks like he has a buyer lined up for sat. Realistically though my budget it more the mid teens, and as I understand it with the more highly tuned examples i'm likely to encounter transmission problems and generally greater costs. From the sounds of it a 400 - 450bhp example would be a great place to start, without breaking the bank.

Doesn't mean I don't get carried away thinking of the big mod motors (even called the bank to see if I could get the credit!)


Hi Max, I'd guessed that, my MR2 loves the small country lanes, and sideways is a must on the tight bends but it feels unsteady on the faster bends. To be honest my road use is decreasing with my increase in frustration with the amount of traffic. I'm doing more and more track days now so the skyline (being the ultimate track car (except maybe the NSX)) will do nicely!

I hate to think what would happen if I got back in my Capri 2.8 turbo (yes i admit it, flog me later) which would slide going straight in fifth in the wet!! It was a lot of fun though, and very good training on how to handle a sideways car, since it never drove in a straight line.

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good approach Nick

And start with what is comfortable.
Have you looked on for sale here on the forum...go to the main page, click into private for sale and there is a nice Silver one for sale there and is a Vspec.
I have plans for the future but am happy with what I have. You have to ask yourself do you really need the big grunt and where will you use it? For me I need to do more track days to justify sth like this.
The more power you go then the more cost and more probs you are going to have. Some will disagree but each to their own.
Gary Chapple has some nice cars for sale and here is his number 07768 255622. Good guy, loves his GTRs and is otfen on the board. He has a wide range of cars for sale and he only gets good ones. Tell him I sent you BTW.
worth trying the tuners like Abbey as they have some for sale.
In fact Abbey have a nice N plate blue one with big cooler and stage 1 for sale. 01883 732331. About the mid teens and well looked after.
BUT WHATEVER YOU DO get the car checked by a specialist as you could be in for probs. Use Abbey as they are so close to you. well worth an hour of your time and walk away if they refuse a check.
If you really want to see soem GTRs then come down tothe bolney meet in 2 weeks time...16th March. Just past pease pottage on the A23. Huge Jap meet with other 200 cars and some GTRs there. I will be there along with others so you can have a good selection and a few runs before you buy. see under meetings and then Bolney.
Don't rush there are loads out there and a buyers market.
 

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Superb, thanks for those numbers, I'll get on to it.

Where abouts is Abbey?

I went along to the last Bolney meet, good turn out, I saw a lovely skyline there then, parked backing on to my friend's black celica GT4.

Will definately head down there for the next one.

Cheers for your advice, much appreciated.

Nick:)
 
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