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Ok had the car a year now and still have little confidence in the twisted.
I thought initially it may have been the seats as they are not that supportive but after taken it out again the weekend and think it's just to dam quick !

I seem to arrive into corners quicker then I think the car can handle, don't get me wrong it's not like 80/90 miles an hour but following the likes of a F430 or 360 they seem to be able to negotiate the bends rather better then I think my car can do.

So am I asking to much of the car coming from the ferrari stable myself or are they just a little bit more edgy and could this be sorted with a new suspension set up?

Any thoughts would be good :unsure:

Stay safe.

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The litchfield suspension package is great for the road. What tyres are you running?

I find you have to be a little ‘ballsy’ with these cars, some track days with the car can help inspire such confidence.
 

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The litchfield suspension package is great for the road. What tyres are you running?

I find you have to be a little ‘ballsy’ with these cars, some track days with the car can help inspire such confidence.
I am running Michelin pilot sport 4 s a little over 1500 miles old.
Litchfield are showing loads of different set ups, i guess you are talking about the road use ones?
 

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CAT D driver training ;) You wont regret it, they are on here somewhere!
This would be worth doing definitely.
Ferrari's do handle extremely well but a 35 should out handle one easily.

Are finding the tyres bounce or dont feel direct enough on steering at high speed?
 

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This would be worth doing definitely.
Ferrari's do handle extremely well but a 35 should out handle one easily.

Are finding the tyres bounce or dont feel direct enough on steering at high speed?
No nothing like that!

I have no confidence in driving the car swiftly on bendy roads! the 458 would make the GT-R look silly IMHO around the same roads, that said the Ferrari was lighter and the seats did support you way better than the R35 seats do.

Unsure to invest in 3 grand worth of seats or use that money on a better suspension set up to be honest. 🤔
 

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No nothing like that!

I have no confidence in driving the car swiftly on bendy roads! the 458 would make the GT-R look silly IMHO around the same roads, that said the Ferrari was lighter and the seats did support you way better than the R35 seats do.

Unsure to invest in 3 grand worth of seats or use that money on a better suspension set up to be honest. 🤔
I think if you put the 2 cars against each other you would be surprised how quick the 35 really is- even on bends.
I wouldn't change the seats but you could look at the suspension set up.

Why not do the Cat D driver training as that would be the cheapest option and you would learn more about the best way to drive the car?
 

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I think if you put the 2 cars against each other you would be surprised how quick the 35 really is- even on bends.
I wouldn't change the seats but you could look at the suspension set up.

Why not do the Cat D driver training as that would be the cheapest option and you would learn more about the best way to drive the car?
The car is definable quicker than the 458 but not on the twisties believe me it isn't.
I will look into driver training but I have owned some very special cars over the years and although not a Lewis Hamilton not a bad driver;)

Will defo look into a new suspension setup from Litchfields.

Thanks for your input(y)

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Ive never found a road going Ferrari I cant either stay with or overtake on track days, a 4.25 will hurt that 458's feelings just about anywhere with a confident driver, if your heads not in it then you will never get the most from the car, do the CAT D course the GTR has to be driven totally different to rwd rear engined car and Cat D will show you how to get the best from your car.
 

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Two reasonable cheap ways of improving the GTR handling is fitting a set of uprated anti roll bars and getting the geometry done at a GTR independent specialist.
As an aside I own a GTR and a 458, the 458 is a lot harder and more " edgy" to drive quickly than a GTR, I'm sure any of the passengers who have been out with me on track in the 458 will confirm that!
 

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Two reasonable cheap ways of improving the GTR handling is fitting a set of uprated anti roll bars and getting the geometry done at a GTR independent specialist.
As an aside I own a GTR and a 458, the 458 is a lot harder and more " edgy" to drive quickly than a GTR, I'm sure any of the passengers who have been out with me on track in the 458 will confirm that!
Weird because I feel it is the exact opposite! the 458 was for more predictable and the feed back though the car was so much better and engaging than the GT-R..for me any way.
I am not a track driving person but do except that I my require a few track days to get to grip [no pun intended] with this car.

Thanks for the reply Barry [I think I may have met you at a Ferrari owners club event at Prescott last year]
 

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Two reasonable cheap ways of improving the GTR handling is fitting a set of uprated anti roll bars and getting the geometry done at a GTR independent specialist.
As an aside I own a GTR and a 458, the 458 is a lot harder and more " edgy" to drive quickly than a GTR, I'm sure any of the passengers who have been out with me on track in the 458 will confirm that!
Completely different handling cars, the 458 has very precise and sensitive steering, feels almost like a single seater racing car, it turns in really sharp but on the limit it will snap quickly into oversteer, again feels like a racecar with this pointy turn in. You can go much deeper into a corner and leave the turn in later in the 458 but you have to be careful with the throttle applications, you can't just turn in and floor it and expect to get away with it in the 458, this is especially true in the wet.
The GTR is much more predictable and easier to drive, the electronics will often get you out of trouble if you don't panic but right on the limit they still move around. The biggest handling issue is quick direction changes, in standard trim the car is a little sluggish turning in and then it rolls due to the weight, if you then have to hustle it the following way it is reluctant to follow the steering angle, this is shown up at places like Becketts at Silverstone and Surtees at Brands, this is where the uprated roll bars help to stiffen it up and stop it leaning over and moving the roll centres around. Anybody who has driven a GTR on track will know it doesn't drive itself but it does make things a lot easier.
 

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Thanks for the reply Barry [I think I may have met you at a Ferrari owners club event at Prescott last year]
No that wouldn't have been me, I get along to quite a few FOC events but not been to Prescott, my 458 is Grigio Silverstone. It may have been John who's on here as Papa Smurf, he owns an R35 and a Rosso 458.
 
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