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better for what?? cruising in front of the clubs or doing trackdays on the nordschleife??

You need to tell what you want and need....what sort of budget you have etc...
 

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Difficult to say really..
My experience of Tein is practically 0 but I did have some rather tasty Billies on my Gp4 MKII Escort and they were very impressive. Bilstein have always had an excellent reputation in the old school rally scene. From what I gather Tein are very highly regarded as well in the JDM tuning market although these days they make them for anything.
One factor that will make a difference is spring rates. Make sure you take time to specify a suitable rate for your application or ANY damper will feel bad to the layperson.

Also, I suppose it depends on hat you mean 'better'?. Better made? Better value? More street cred???

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I'm just ordinary street, and sometimes of course, step on oil sprint, and sometimes fast cornering. Because I have considered tein monoflex, and then my friend introduced me blistein. So I wanted to know the difference under the two. Because few days ago I hit my gtr, because I turn steering when cornering too much and maybe speed is fast, and then rear of the vehicle out of control, then hit the traffic lights. Now repair the vehicles in the garage, but I'm afraid, so would like to change a good suspension also rims, because I have been using the original's.
 

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Bear in mind that both Bilstein and Tein make different types and qualities of units.

Do you want coil-overs or uprated stock units?
Do you the option to adjust the damping force, ride height or pre-load?
How much money do you want to spend?

The only clear 'advantage' I can think of is that (some of) the Tein stuff allows the use of their remote adjuster box. I don't think that Bilstein have anything similar.

Have a think about what you want to spend first, if it's new stuff then about £500 is the lowest you can go. Of course you may be comfortable spending £1000 or £1500 in which case the product you buy will be vastly different.
 

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Bear in mind that both Bilstein and Tein make different types and qualities of units.

Do you want coil-overs or uprated stock units?
Do you the option to adjust the damping force, ride height or pre-load?
How much money do you want to spend?

The only clear 'advantage' I can think of is that (some of) the Tein stuff allows the use of their remote adjuster box. I don't think that Bilstein have anything similar.

Have a think about what you want to spend first, if it's new stuff then about £500 is the lowest you can go. Of course you may be comfortable spending £1000 or £1500 in which case the product you buy will be vastly different.

Do you want coil-overs or uprated stock units?
Do you the option to adjust the damping force, ride height or pre-load?


actually i m from malaysia, and i don understand all of this. :(
i think my budget should be below RM6000, but i m not sure.
 

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So can you please give me comments? Because I do not know which one to elect.
but my target is 400 whp. anyone suit?
 

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Depending on the roadquality in malaysia(and especially in your area) i would chose my suspension from that point,it its bad roads,dont buy a Tein....simple.

If you just have flat nice roads,you can get a tein....;)
 

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There is no comparison, if you strip both down you'll see the valve stack, piston seal, piston rod finish and piston rod seals in even basic Bilsteins is far superior to Tein stuff, for which you are paying for fancy anodised finishes and worldwide advertising costs. Longevity of a Bilstein is hugely superior to Tein. I must see a dozen ultra low mileage Tein units that knock or leak every year, and a dyno test of brand new ones straight from the box often shows them wildly disparate in damping settings. All fur coat and no knickers. A trip to any city centre wine bar will however show that young men often like fur coats and no knickers over a more stable relationship :)
 

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Depending on the roadquality in malaysia(and especially in your area) i would chose my suspension from that point,it its bad roads,dont buy a Tein....simple.

If you just have flat nice roads,you can get a tein....;)
oic, Here the road is poor, then I select blistein height adjustable kit, I hope I will not regret the choice, hehe, thank you. :)
 

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There is no comparison, if you strip both down you'll see the valve stack, piston seal, piston rod finish and piston rod seals in even basic Bilsteins is far superior to Tein stuff, for which you are paying for fancy anodised finishes and worldwide advertising costs. Longevity of a Bilstein is hugely superior to Tein. I must see a dozen ultra low mileage Tein units that knock or leak every year, and a dyno test of brand new ones straight from the box often shows them wildly disparate in damping settings. All fur coat and no knickers. A trip to any city centre wine bar will however show that young men often like fur coats and no knickers over a more stable relationship :)
oic, but not really understand , lol.
 

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^^Simple terms- Chris says Bilstein are better quality then Tein. I agree with him.
 

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There is no comparison, if you strip both down you'll see the valve stack, piston seal, piston rod finish and piston rod seals in even basic Bilsteins is far superior to Tein stuff, for which you are paying for fancy anodised finishes and worldwide advertising costs. Longevity of a Bilstein is hugely superior to Tein. I must see a dozen ultra low mileage Tein units that knock or leak every year, and a dyno test of brand new ones straight from the box often shows them wildly disparate in damping settings. All fur coat and no knickers. A trip to any city centre wine bar will however show that young men often like fur coats and no knickers over a more stable relationship :)
Good to see a proper knowledgeable response. Bilstein has a patented 2 valve design - which TEIN doesn't. Bilstein rides better as a result. Note that Bilstein is used by car manufacturers - which is always a good sign of quality.

Contrary to popular belief - TEIN doesn't have a good reputation in Japan. Their products are middle of the road at best & best used on the road, rather than trackdays. Ohlins, Bilstein, Aragosta are usually better, although there are even better products out there such as custom built Bilstein Coilovers, Nitron, etc. if your pocket is deep enough.
 

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There is no comparison, if you strip both down you'll see the valve stack, piston seal, piston rod finish and piston rod seals in even basic Bilsteins is far superior to Tein stuff, for which you are paying for fancy anodised finishes and worldwide advertising costs. Longevity of a Bilstein is hugely superior to Tein. I must see a dozen ultra low mileage Tein units that knock or leak every year, and a dyno test of brand new ones straight from the box often shows them wildly disparate in damping settings.
Exactly...
Bilstein have been in the damper game for years and produce some very fine items. IMHO theres no comparisson. Bilstein all the way. However, as you always pay for what you get budget then becomes an issue. That will be the deciding factor.

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I would always assume that Bilsteins are better than teins, but isn't there quite a substantial disparity in price?


As above, you gets what you pays for.
 

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I have no experience of Teins but i do have Bilsteins on my GTR and it rides very well. I would defo buy them again if i were looking for suspension.
 

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I have had both on my car.

I had the basic, bolt on Bilstiens (they have groves with a big circlip to adjust ride height) with both Std and HKS springs. With either spring they crashed through pot holes, and leaked after about 18mths....I hated them.

I now have Tein Superstreets, and they are much more forgiving through large bumps....And they haven't sh1t themselves like the Bilsteins.

....I know the Teins are more expensive that the basic Bilsteins, and that the better Bilsteins are far better again, But if you are looking at the lower grade of shocks, I wouldn't buy Bilsteins again.
 
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