[Evo Muncher]

Gents,

Just a quick thought.

I run with an an IT Recruitment business business with my biz partner (an Evo Driver poor deluded man that he is) . Recently he has, through the MLR, done some business with the guys from their site.

Would be keen to get a bit of an understanding for what you guys do, whatever it is. Basically think it would make sense that if there are opportunities for us to "Keep it in the family" then keen to make it happen.

The long and short of it could be, that if we all get an idea for what each other does and any of us end up doing some business off the back of contacts made through the forum then we could chip some of the monies made back to Cem to keep developing and building the site.

Anyone got a view on this??

 

[japracer MK2]

dont let..

TT know you call him deluded
He has the feelings of a girl:smokin:

 

[Evo Muncher]

Ha

Call him a lot worse than that!!!

 

[MOSI - TTVII]

Very funny lads !

FYI: we donated £2k to the MLR last week to be used for the good of the club, off a bit of biz transacted using the 'keeping it in the club' mentality.

Everyone always bangs on about how much bloomin business gets done on the golf course - well I hate golf - so lets replicate this 'golf course biz' in a slightly different way ?

Who does what here ?

Maybe we can use each others services and donate some of the profits generated to the GTR club ?

 

[mattb]

Sounds good, what info do you need?

 

[Paul Fox]

What do you do ???

Ahhhh - I have had this exact thought before, esp on this kind of BBR where the majority of people are in the mid to high end wage bracket ... But although a few are IT related, I believe that on here quite a few of the guys run / own their own business's but on the Scooby register averyone seems to be in the crumbling telecoms market or IT....

Me - Well I am a sales manager in the aforementined telecoms sector...

Rgds,

P

 

[Andy Barnes]

Work

I am a pimp, anyone got anything they want to rent out?

The midget is over worked, not long for his chosen career

Anyone know if Seb Fontaine still has his R33?

 

[Evo Muncher]

Guess we need to establish pretty much what everyone does and then explore ways we can all benefit from working together.

Chris.

 

[mattb]

I am an Analyst/Designer/Developer in the CRM market. At the moment my current title is Application Specialist, whatever that means. Basically I design and build Customer Relationship Management solutions from simple outbound sales solutions all the way up to Siebel and Oracle 11i solutions.

I am specialising in designing small to medium sized web based solutions at the moment.

Not sure if you can use me but if you can give me a PM.

Matt

 

[Rupert]

Sold - Long ago...

Dirk,

Seb sold his R-33 long ago and now has an R-34.

Rupert

 

[SteveC]

I manage a small tecnical support department for Ericsson Ltd. in the aforementioned ailing telecomms market.

so if anyone has a telephone exchange in their home I can probably fix it .... not much use to your business link up I think.

/Steve

 

[Pailin]

Good idea!

Another Web designer/programmer. But self employed, so can take advantage of very flexible working hours

Most of my programming is in Visual Basic.

Do a fair bit of work with Access and SQL Server too.

 

[Talat]

Oracle DBA with OCP certification and over 5 years experience in both Prod Support and Development. Currently work for an Investment Bank.

Talat.

 

[Smootster73]

Recruiters..

yuk. you lot are even worse vultures than us sales people

How does the script go..yeah I have got this wicked candidate for you mate. Highly skilled, a team player, has business acumun and drive and understands the market...

What do I get...a guy who does not want to do this job, knows nothing about our business and never did want the role in the first place.

you guys need bigger ears and smaller mouths....2-1 selling ratio I believe.

Rant over.

 

[Skylining]

IT is unfair....

Can someone explain how come the Telecom/IT market has fallen apart in the UK?

I know since the socialist takeover of government it was considered unfair that you IT folk had to go to all the trouble of running your own company, you had to pay the whole of your national insurance, pay at least £1,000 a year to an accountant to mark your homework, no social benefits (unemployment etc), no job security, and 30 to 50% of your earnings going to IT recruitment agents. I could see how being an independent IT specialist would be unfair.

So how has socialism made things fair for you and yet the IT sector in the UK seems to be falling apart?

My $.02 worth.

Paul.

 

[mattb]

Socialism??

No socialism here guv. We have Blue Labour you know. A bit like the Conservatives but easier to spell. Instead of taxing us directly they just try stealing it without us noticing in out petrol and such like.

Oh no I see flames coming.

 

[Peter]

Well, if you want a nice new office suite built.....

 

[SteveC]

Can't really comment on the IT side but the telecomms sector fell apart as a direct result of the 3G license sell off. IMO

The subject of IR 35 ? etc doesn't apply to me as I am not a contractor.

to start from the beginning....

President Blair and his cronies decided it would be a good way to raise a lot of cash to sell off the licenses for the 3g development rights.

Vodafone,et al bought these rights for billions.
at this point enter the banks, who have lent out this cash.. they reviewed the expenditure of these large telecom operators and said, I think you'd better not borrow much more money until you have got rid of these billions of debt.

Now enter the manufacturers, Siemens, Nokia, Ericsson, Marconi, and others..all make equipment for the operators who up until their massive expenditure, were expanding almost exponentially.
the sudden cut back of network investment has caused a lull in committed work from these companies and the large companies have resized their operations to suit the market, Ericsson lays off about 10,000 and the others all do the same.

This coupled with the saturation of the bigger market places with mobile and land lines has led to less of a requirement for network expansion. Now companies are looking to less developed parts of the world for new business.

This caused a big vote of no confidence from the shareholders who refuse to buy stock in these companies and the share prices fell by some 70% in some cases. some of the smaller companies are in even more shit with them going down completely.

Worldcom miscalculating their profits hasn't really helped either !!

Basically everyone is battening down the hatches and riding out the storm.

This is my interpretation of the events that have led to the market collapse in the telecom sector.

anyone else ?

Steve

 

[MOSI - TTVII]

nwelch & Paul,

Its a shame that you guys shares these sentiments - the thread was genuinely written with the best of intentions in the hope that some good would come of it.

I'm sure Evo Muncher wasnt looking for a barrage of abuse and personal insults ! - 'welcome to the club Evo Muncher!!'

I'm going back to the MLR - people seem friendlier there !

 

[Evo Muncher]

Cracking Generalisation

Yep you got me nailed pal - wow I'm such a cowboys, really crap at my job and never make a bean. As a company we provide a really useless, overpriced, failing service that no-one ever wants to use and yep send you awful candidates that never get the job.

The above is how we stay in business and make money.........................................

Now consider this why has my Company within 2 years become the only supplier to be asked to join IBM's PSL without tendering at all?

Why are we the only endorsed Peregrine/Remedy Resources?Centre in EMEA.

Why do we only recruit value driven customer focussed staff?

Why are we outperforming all our peers in the industry and continue growing revenues and profit in what is a very difficult market?

Why does over 70% of all our new business come from client referral?

Yep boss you sure got it nailed - we're a bunch of cowboys who don't care about our clients, our candidates, or our service.....guess I must just be lucky eh!

(Telling off over - but I care passionately about what we do and who we do it for).

Chris - (risen to the bait) - Smith