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Learned Gentlemen,

I am based in Japan, looking to get a GTR and to bring it home in the crate with the furniture when I move back in 6-9 months. Took one out for a 24hr test drive and was suitably impressed.

Problem's are threefold:

1. The Yen is extremely strong - cheapest 2008 GTR in the JP classifieds at the mo is 40k GBP at the current exchange rate. Yes, I could use it on unpopulated, unpoliced mountain roads, and therefore have a pretty good user experience for the time that I own it here. However, not having a UK warranty when I import it is concerning. Am I going to be kicking myself when I land on UK shores if I bring this car over - as opposed to simply buying a UK car when I arrive?


2. Nissan Japan's HPC = Huge Pile of Crap. They have no clue about how to sell/support a car of this stature. You may as well be driving a used Pulsar GTi-R for the treatment and expertees you get... Not to mention their pricing:
4000 GBP for a tyre change, 4000 GBP for a rotor + pad change also sounds like a complete rip off. Question your overalled sales person about this, and you are told that the car is "cheaper than a Porsche". Even if you only do 9000 miles per year, this adds 8 grand to your annual ownership cost. 40k in consumables over 5 years sounds a little OTT.

From some of the posts I read, the UK HPC are not much better in terms of customer service, but about 50% cheaper in terms of pricing. Please correct me if I am wrong.


3. In the Japan market, a used GTR goes for about as much as a 5 year old 996 C4S. Totally different machines (320hp vs 470hp) but the mystique and allure of the Carrera is beyond that of the GTR. I am a driver first and poseur second, but I am a little concerned with the very luke warm reception this car is getting. Is the UK perception of the GTR equally as weak?


Any feedback on the above points would be great. I want to get this show on the road, but the above niggles are holding me back from pulling the trigger...

Cheers
Lycheed
 

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Hi Lycheed,

Firstly welcome to the GTROC!

Great first post with some burning questions.

Question 1 - On the warranty side you have to ask yourself 1 thing - Are you going to tune it?

If you are then you can kiss goodbye to your warranty anyway.

If you are going to keep it Standard then i would say best bet taking into consideration the cost factors that you are better buying a car when you arrive back in the UK, prices will have softened by then and you should get a nice car, unabused with UK warranty.

Question 2 - There are poor HPC's and there are others who are real GTR lovers and have been for many years, do a search for rate your HPC poll and you will see some excellent feedback and votes pointing you in the direction of the best HPC's

On the subject of price, remember due to European Legislation you can have your car serviced at an independant gagrage as long as the parts used are from the Approved list of Nissan Parts, this will help reduce labour costs and also parts tend to be slightly cheaper - As long as this is done they can not refuse any warranty claim.

3 - Perception in the UK of the GTR is still very strong - there are stories every day of fellow petrolheads, young kids, old grannies even giving you the thumbs up waving and generally trying to kill themselves to get a photo/glimpse of the car.

As someone who has come from a Porsche 997 Turbo to the GTR, if you are a driver first you will find it strange for the first few weeks, you do not believe you are going as fast as you are, it is not until you start to compare laptimes etc you realise you are getting there quicker, and with less "effort"

Hope these few words help.

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Scotty,

Cheers for the warm welcome and the insight. Certainly some food for thought there.

I suppose that I don't immediately plan to tune it as although there are many reports of people getting some really decent numbers out of the motor with no (immediate) impact to the transmission, with any AWD car, you do run the risk of a tranny rebuild if you up the torque - something I would very much like to avoid.

It is nice to hear that there are some enthusiasts out there at the odd HPC or two in the UK. In JP, if you get into the inner sanctum, the guys are great. The problem is, the designated HPC in my area is a standard Nissan dealer, where the salesguy will be doing deals on 6k Micras to housewives at the same time as serving you as a GTR owner. They need to set up a dedicated chain - or zone within the standard dealership at least - to support sales and maintenance of this car if they want it to sell in Japan. Remember Nissan saying that they will make money even on the cheap JP cars? This is why...

It is interesting to read your perspective on the driver experience of the GTR v 997 Turbo. I knock about in a C4S at the mo, which is way down on power but still fun to drive. I enjoyed my day in the GTR. I couldn't get over how it belies it's size and weight. However, it did feel almost too accomplished, and I can see how it may feel not as brisk as a 997 T for a while. It is a car that I would be happy letting the wife drive - which suits me fine. Allows me to have a drink now and again.

Good to hear about the grannys and kids. The GTR definitely seems far more revered in the UK than JP, which is nice to know from a pride point of view.

Cheers for the input. I have some thinking to do. Leaning towards the UK car at the mo, but it all depends on the strength of the Yen. I will let you know how I go.

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Nissan has their specialist Nismo HPC centre in Tokyo, which people in the Uk can only dream about. You could get the car looked after by them.

You don't have to buy new. We can source an extremely low mileage as new example - with full transferrable Japanese warranty for you around 30% cheaper than from a Japanese dealer. Matty32 represents Newera on this forum or PM me if you want more info.
 

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transferrable - does that mean the car can be bought in Japan, yet serviced at any Nissan dealer worldwide that handles GT-Rs? Cause Nissan Korea now sells the GT-R, but they are a very small dealer network, they only sell three other models (Altima, Murano, Rogue), and the damned thing costs £75,000. That's right, £75K.
 

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Miguel, this would be a game changer. I can tell you that after my dealer experience, my enthusiasm for this car took quite a hit. I got the red carpet at Porsche and Chevrolet - all viewed on the same day. Probably because they are used to selling high ticket leisure items, and interfacing with the people that may buy them...

PM sent. Cheers
 
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