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Hi All,
just thought this might prove an interesting topic;

1.How much have you spent on tuning your Skyline?

2.Was it worth it?

3.If you had the chance to start again.........what would you do & why?

MY R33 has had well over £30,000 spent on tuning & modifications
over the last three years.
I love my car,its awesome.I feel that every penny has been money well spent & I am very pleased that I was guided by Gary at GT-ART to having HKS everything (& a Trust sump, cheers Tim)
If I had the chance again I would go to Japan & buy absolutely everything,HKS of course & have Gary do the WHOLE JOB in one hit.I feel that by playing Gran Turismo in the real world and adding parts bit by bit like in the game has cost me & taught me alot.
Next year may see my new R34,but I don`t think I will sell my R33! I can`t afford too;) :D

I await your replys & just to let you all know why I have the chance,I don`t own the "Beast" anymore,Gary does & thats cost WELL over £50,000 in parts....

Cheers,
Henry.:smokin:
 

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I have spent approx $20000nz (£5,600 Joss) on my car , and I have just scraped the surface of what I want to do with it , It is worth every cent so far , I have never heard of a performance car as reliable at twice the (claimed) factory power output. I sat in the drivers seat last night for the first time in 2 months and although I couldnt drive it the smell and feel of the car brought back so many memories . a month and I should be able to hear it run again.
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Good post Herry

As I am new to Skyline I am being very carfull how I spend my money to get the performance,

This is why I am going to the Dyno day just to find out were the car is now and with luck plot it's progress over time!

It will be intresting to see the mods that people have made and which work and which just cost lots of money!

I do agree that Skyline parts are very high in Price In the UK, I guess that is the price you have to pay if you want a car thats not main streem!

I do feel that one could be taken advantage of! I have seen some of the service bills for my car and the mark up is out of this world!

Oil 48UKpound that you could by the same any were for 24UKpounds Oil filters that are less than a fiver from Nissan being charged at 15UKpounds (they are the same as the almera)

It would be cool to get parts from Japan! We need to start a trade club like the MG boys do!

one thing you have to ask your self is could the tuning houses still do it if they did not make the make up on parts or would people just do more to there cars:eek: ?

Still if you go to Japan with a big shopping list I think you could pay for the trip with orders form other people!

So when you going over ?

I will have......................................................................
............................................................................. and that will do nicley!:D

:Herry walks in to big HKS shop "20 sets of cams Please" :D
 

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Well this is very strange now isn't it!! On another thread in this section I practically got my head bitten off for saying that people get overcharged in the UK. Everybody was very prompt in putting me in my place with my unbased comments...and now on the same section we have UK GTR owners complaning of high prices and garages making money out of them!:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

I believe there are two schools of though on this forum;)

So which is right?? Was my comment so far fetched???:rolleyes:
 

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I have lost count...well...almost!:D I's spent about the equivalent of 25 - 28k pound to get what the car is now churning out. Well, from a totally selfish point of view, I say it's money well spent!:D (though my better half might disagree with that! - that's why she's my "better half"!:D ). I love the car - absolutely. Judging the performance and the satisfaction I derive from it, I think it's awesome. The cheapest supercar in the world!
BTW, things are cheaperv over here and even cheaper still in S'pore, which is only a 3 hour drive away. Mehanic's charges are also much cheaper here or in S'pore. I use HKS parts except the ECU where I now use Top Secret ROM/boost controller (Blitz)/clutch (OS Giken)/springs (Eibach). HKS is more expensive than the others but I think it is very reliable and well made.
 

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Buying direct

Bruce, Good point.

There was/is talk about some of us going to Japan in January. At the last count about half of the originally interested had dropped out but there are still a small handful interested. On Sunday I was talking to some of the attendees about making shopping lists and saving the £££s. I guess bonnets and intercoolers are out for hand luggage but we could arrange bulk deliveries etc.

Once I know for sure how many people are going to Japan I'll post a note about shopping lists.

On the original question - how much have I spent? Not much ('Finance Director' keeps saying no.) How much more? Lots!:D
 

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How much...

I don't know about the rest of you but it'd be suicide and instant divorce for me to go public on how much I've spent in case the wife should ever find out...:eek:. I'm beginning to run out of the 'Oh I got a special deal on it' or 'I'll get back more for the old one than the new one cost' or 'it improves fuel consumption' type excuses!

Dino,

Did I read something about 'not taking things personally' somewhere?

For my part, I was merely trying to point out that it was an incorrect assumption that we are always overcharged over here for parts which come over from Japan, which is effectively what you stated. As the majority of GT-R owners on this site appear to use reputable companies like Abbey, Hiteq, Option, Middlehurst, etc. who in turn source parts from companies such as SVS, etc. and as the majority of owners appear to be more than happy with the service they all provide, what is there to be gained by slurring them.

Sure there are the less reputable garages and parts suppliers out there and I had a bad experience with a well known one of these when I first owned my 33, but this forum will point everybody in the right direction if they want good service with parts at, well nobody could say cheap prices, the going rates.

Personally, unless the part is completely inanimate and just can't go wrong in anyway, I wouldn't take the risk of importing anything direct from Japan. Sure you'll save a few bob but it's just not worth the risk IMHO.

Hope that clarifies my position anyway.

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Dino,

I don't think it's a case of overcharging but due to the import and delivery costs the end result is that these costs have to be passed on to the consumer to some extent.

For the record, I buy all my stuff direct from Japan. If you buy a number of items then some good cost savings can be made i.e. I once bought a Trust muffer, straight pipe, front pipe, apex induction kit, eibach springs and a few other bits and bobs and the total cost of it all (inc. VAT , import duty and delivery) came to just over £1k and it took 2 weeks to get here. I always use CheckerFlag in Tokyo as they discount the parts i.e. my Trust muffler retailed at around 70,000 Yen but I paid 45,000 Yen.

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Importing.

Hi Talat,

You are also only too aware that there are pitfalls to importing kit following your problems with TK and that diff??

Do Option fit your parts or do you do it yourself?

Is your 32 on the road yet? Just thinking about the next track day..... :)

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Hi Peter,

TK was the exception. I normally use Checkerflag and I tried TK just to find out how they compared and as you know it was a harsh lesson. In the future I'll stick with Checkerflag because I know that I can rely on them.

I get all my parts fitted by Option as I'm not mechanically inclined myself. This time around I won't be doing too much shopping as the R32 is pretty well modded. The car is in the UK and I'm waiting for the DVLA to get back to me so I'll let you know about the track day within the next few days.

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Oh dear

Back on this old chestnut are we. Hurraahh.

Well the oil and filter comes UK sourced so WOW. Didn't you complain especially as you could have got it for £24. Don't know about an Almera filter though ?

I do complain if I feel that I am being ripped-off. I once took my Audi A8 to an Audi dealers to have a front stereing thingy :confused: fitted. I asked for the price to be broken down in advance on the telephone and booked the car in. Labour time was quoted at 4 hours. I dropped the car off and they said that I should come back 4 hours later. I walked around the corner, had a Little Chef brekkie and came back 2 hours later. Saw my car in the workshop off the ramps. Shouted to a "Technician", 'all done mate' and he gave me the thumbs up. Had another couple of fags, went back in to settle the bill. They gave me the bill and low and behold it had 4 hours labour on it. I then asked him to take off 2 hours. Should have seen the look on his face. Anyway he got the manager who ushered me into his office out of hearing range from other punters and tried pathetically to convince me that these were static charges. I argued and got 2 hours labour knocked off. Amazing eh.

Perhaps I have been lucky using Abbey and feel that the other Skyline boys down South work on the same premise. By others down South I mean TJ and GT-ART. Don't know about anyone else but perhaps we should start a name and shame. Just remembered we have under Garages. We need to build a relationship with our chosen garages and can then feel comfortable in what we are being charged.

Bit like eating-out really. We don't mind what we pay as long as we enjoy it and don't feel we are being ripped off. If you work out the meal you paid £75(not including wines/spirits) for would probably only costs the restaurant £6.50 would you still go their. Yep. Theres more to a meal than just buying the produce and I ain't going to explain it 'cause I go on enough as it is :eek: .

Good debate. Musn't upset each other though.

See Ya.

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Dear Bruce.

Not sure if we should become a trade club like MG owners. Our vehicles are much more intricate and sensitive than your MG. Also don't these guys tend to fit Pattern aftermarket bits themselves. Cool if you like that sort of thing but I reckon a good percentage of the owners here aren't. Perhaps we should do another poll :D .

Talat.

Who 'fits your bits' when you get them sent over here.

See Ya

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Costs so far

Henry,

I’ve spent about £3,500 so far on tuning parts and £2,000 on servicing the car in the past 2 years. :rolleyes:

That’s for the ‘normal’ upgrades of air filter; big bore exhaust, ECU, oil cooler, clutch, and boost controller etc. :)

Next comes the big money stuff like better breaks, new cams, pulleys, upgraded turbo etc. :)

I‘ve a few ideas of my own to improve the performance of the car that I will have done in due cause. :)

This value for money thing, it’s unbelievable that people don’t shop around for tuning parts for their cars. :confused: Some websites such as separts, hiteq, and GT-R performance parts have prices online and one can call around for quotes for anything else. :)

I for one am grateful that Dino, has had the decency to post some Japanese prices as a bench mark as to what to bargain for with UK tuners. ;)

Anyway if anyone thinks Skyline parts are expensive try original Ferrari parts from a main dealer compared with those of a specialist, sometimes the markup in over ten fold. :(
 

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LEAVE DCD ALONE.

HE WAS ONLY PUTTING ACROSS HIS POINT OF VIEW.

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH PARTS BEING WAY OVER PRICED.

I bought a PACE intercooler for my R33 GTR for the huge
some of £330.00
Ask Keith Cowie, he has the same one on his car.

Cheers Tom. :smokin:
 

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Parts and

Dear All.

We seem to be going of the mark again with the pricing.

I do agree that pricing from certain garages/tuners can vary and some home-work needs to be done between the best tuners around. Not too many unfortunately but that I am sure doesn't mean they are cartel like. Enough owners here with enough sense and in business for themselves have had their cars tuned and I am sure if they were going to dodgy garages and getting ripped off they would soon shout. Funny thing is the more people coming on here the more we have to expect it to degrade at certain times I suppose. Just a rule of percentages their not my own views (side step, side step.)

What we all have to be careful of is posting prices that are not realistic. This could lead to prospective/current owners thinking that they may be getting/will be ripped off by unscrupulous Skyline tuners. Non Skyline/prospective Skyline owners DO read this site.

I had lunch with Blowdog last week and the poor chap is in a bit of a state re conflicting stories he hears re boosting/ECU's and is not going to go to the first stage of tune because he is confused. Of course he is. Having more than one choice confuses me at the best of times. Mated with this Blowdog is probably spinning re this pricing b******t as well. If we ain't got anything constructive to say then we should shut up. I don't mean banter as that is a good laugh. What we don't want is this site to become something resembling what we all know we don't want it to be. We own one of the most exclusive cars in the world and have a duty to be constructive where and when it is required. The vehicles we own are very precious to us and WE KNOW the tuners who think likewise.

I for one don't want to import my goods from Japan with or without the help of others. OK i've ordered the odd thing like clothing :eek: , titanium gear knob :D , clear lenses :D but would never consider anything of high value or of a complex nature. Mind you I thought the Gear Knob was going to be easy to fit :eek: and I done it myself because I wouldn't have the front to ask a tuner/garage to fit it and if he did he would have charged me. Don't forget to add labour to most of these 'cheapish' parts from Japan when they arrive. And also I wonder if the tuners would fit these bits anyway. Probably would but with no recourse for us. Mmmm food for thought.

If I thought I was being ripped off I ain't afraid to say b******s I ain't paying that. If people aren't checking the prices before hand and then moaning here after they've paid then thats their problem. Don't let the Tar brush go over everyone. Not very fair that.

So to finish I don't think we are getting overcharged in the big picture just getting a bit confused by some peoples comments/ personal thoughts.

I'm finished with this now as all the Skyliners I have met over the last 16 months up until a couple of days ago have all been comfortable with what they have paid and for what they have got.

Damn I go on :rolleyes: .

glen
 

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£330 ????

Slippery,

please could you give some details/comparisons for the intercooler as I may go for it..... do they also do hard pipe kits etc ?

did you notice the difference with the I/C ?

If they have a web page I'd be interested.

I think in a lot of cases there will be less well known parts available which do the same job as the more expensive makes, Trust, HKS, NISMO etc but no one has heard of them.
As the freight charges are so high (pointed out in another post by Tim @SVS ) it is entirely concievable that there are parts which cost exactly the same to manufacture here as they do in Japan but we can buy them with just VAT on making them a lot cheaper.

I am in a fortunate position to have my best mate working for a Nissan garage who gets put on a lot of courses. There are some things that only tuners can do (setting up ecu's etc) but the maintainence work is done by my mates and me.

I for one do not feel ripped off by anyone, some things are prohibitively expensive and I simply cannot afford them, this doesn't mean the tuners are pulling a fast one... pound for pound the GTR is the cheapest super car there is even after putting the OS Geiken bottom end and super duper top end trimmed of with a custom 6 speed box anything that will piss on a tuned Lambo has got to be good :)

and at the end of the day if I can't afford a new bit for my car I just look out of the window and watch people looking at my car, I think that is mine !! :smokin:

Grand tourismo doesn't do them justice !


Happy skylining

Steve
 

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Okay kids, time to calm down

I seem to remember this being about how much spent. DCD, PeterE and Slippery seem to have missed the point.

Okay, time to get back in to your GTR Prams. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
 

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Oy, John, don't pick on me! I was only responding to Dino's earlier post.

Now, where's my pram gone....
 

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And Me

Yeah I lost the plot as well.

Anyway I've done about £15k so far. I think :confused: . And please don't no one give me a hard time about "don't you know what you've spent young man". I do ask prices before things are done and sometimes forget them until it is called in for a fitment. Think I have short term memory loss.

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