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This is just a tentative enquiry to see if there would be any interest in a meet in the Isle of Man - home of the TT Bike races.

No speed limits - possible to legally max out an R35 on the mountain course.

Would endeavour to get the old airfield for a day - full track and drag.

Lots of nice scenery and real ale.

I would be happy to organise in conjunction with whoever usually organises meets.

There are lots of car club meets in the IOM of all genres.

Travel not cheap - ferry averages £300 return from Liverpool. Hotels about £60 - £80 per night although I would endeavour to get a deal.

The Isle of Man is the ultimate motoring place in the British Isles without doubt - Clarkson has a place there.

Would be looking at Summer 2010 - maybe July/August time when weather is best.

Again - this is a preliminary request for interest only at this stage.
 

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We have done IoM three times and on every occasion had to report to the police! Not that we did anything wrong or broke any laws it just seems that the 'locals' are becoming more against the cars visiting the island. Bearing in mind the tax law changes on the Island and the loss to the economy as a result you would think people would recognise the need to encourage motor tourism not try and stop it! Also Straightliners used to do regular meets at the airfield but got so much bad press they also don't bother much any more for the car side of it.

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We have done IoM three times and on every occasion had to report to the police! Not that we did anything wrong or broke any laws it just seems that the 'locals' are becoming more against the cars visiting the island. Bearing in mind the tax law changes on the Island and the loss to the economy as a result you would think people would recognise the need to encourage motor tourism not try and stop it! Also Straightliners used to do regular meets at the airfield but got so much bad press they also don't bother much any more for the car side of it.

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Yes I agree that they have a really weird attitude at times - I lived there for 19 years before permantly moving to East Yorkshire 7 weeks ago.

They even managed to wreck the TT last year, and that is where a lot of income comes from.

Many locals do not like any outsiders for any reason - that never really changes.

But OTOH I know a lot of people including members of the government who might smooth the way for us.

I hope so, because as you will know, it is a great drivers venue once you get beyond the irritations.

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The IOM is brill, but as John said the locals do seem to resent fast cars / bikes even though the Island's main claim to fame is the TT.

Hope the weather improves soon, off to play on the Triumph early June :thumbsup:
 

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The IOM is brill, but as John said the locals do seem to resent fast cars / bikes even though the Island's main claim to fame is the TT.
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Very true - it never changed after 19 years even though there are a lot of very fast cars based there.

OTOH when they introduced speed cameras as an experiment in urban districts, they all got torched the same night - tyres hung over them and set alight. They soon gave up :)

If this goes ahead I will speak with the police and member of parliament friends of mine to smooth the way. The airfield is a great place.

Best thing to do with the locals is humour them.
 

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Yeah we tried that just after the local radio station started taking phone calls from people complaining. Shortly before we were all given a 'Produce' by the local police - even though the officer in question admitted we'd done nothing wrong but said it was to "prove to the public they were listening" :(
 

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I travelled from east yorkshire to the IOM for my honeymoon in the skyline. Had one of the best breaks ever, great mix of roads and to be honest I found the locals more then hospitable. Only word of warning is that Liverpool docks are a nightmare to get off, due to the steep ramps.

I was thinking of going back in the Summer, so if something was organised I would be happy to coincide the two.
 

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Yeah we tried that just after the local radio station started taking phone calls from people complaining. Shortly before we were all given a 'Produce' by the local police - even though the officer in question admitted we'd done nothing wrong but said it was to "prove to the public they were listening" :(
Sounds about right :)

I would speak to the chief constable and a member of parliament I know - and who I have helped out before - ahead of the meet.

The best roads are not really populated anyway - the mountain road has almost no habitation - just miles miles of flat our roads and bends of the TT course.

I lived off the course itself where the roads were closed half a dozen times per year for everything from the TT to classic cars to push bike racing.

My view is that it would be an awesome meet, but needs to be arranged beforhand with the officials and police. I would be happy to sort that out.
 

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We pretty much stuck to the mountain roads and was always very mindful of the towns we went through to never speed or do anything to upset the loacals. I think it came down to the fact we had to overtake people on the mountain roads and they didn't like it! It seems also that they just looked for foreign plates and a bunch of Skylines made it easy to spot us. All in all we were 'easy targets' for people who wanted the roads to themselves for a quiet country drive. As I said the officer who wrote out tickets to all of us even agreeed we'd done nothing wrong.
 

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We pretty much stuck to the mountain roads and was always very mindful of the towns we went through to never speed or do anything to upset the loacals. I think it came down to the fact we had to overtake people on the mountain roads and they didn't like it! It seems also that they just looked for foreign plates and a bunch of Skylines made it easy to spot us. All in all we were 'easy targets' for people who wanted the roads to themselves for a quiet country drive. As I said the officer who wrote out tickets to all of us even agreeed we'd done nothing wrong.
I can quite believe it.

I think the best bet is if I speak with the police and department of transport before anything is organised and get pre-agreement.

On the second day of the TT week they have a "Mad Sunday" where the mountain course is one way - great fun.

Only issue is that ferry prices double and hotels are booked years in advance.

My view is that we should not be intimidated by the locals.

If the interest is here I will do my utmost to smooth the way so we can all have a great time.
 

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It doesn't matter how much "smoothing"** you do, once complaints are made the Police are obliged to take some sort of action whether it be producers, etc, etc, whatever.

More than half a dozen cars attracts attention. Complaints are always made.

I'm not saying don't go, it's a great bit of tarmac, but you can't enjoy it like you once could.


**the first time the OC went was by invite and we still got into trouble.
 

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It doesn't matter how much "smoothing"** you do, once complaints are made the Police are obliged to take some sort of action whether it be producers, etc, etc, whatever.

More than half a dozen cars attracts attention. Complaints are always made.

I'm not saying don't go, it's a great bit of tarmac, but you can't enjoy it like you once could.


**the first time the OC went was by invite and we still got into trouble.
Given that I lived there - half a mile from the grandstand - for 19 years, I know there were many meets every year for different groups.

I also know what the locals can be like - believe me. I was reported several times even with IOM plates as a known fast driver they resented - but they never pinned a charge on me except for two or three SP30's over that time.

The police are actually very understanding, but as you say, they have to action complaints.

What I am saying is that the Isle of Man is just too good for meets to be intimidated.

If we - or I pre-speak with the police, department of transport and airfield people, and tell them what we will be doing and when, then I do not see any issues.

Also better to go in the week to avoid the weekend drivers if people can make it.

As I said before, later in the year if the main meet organiser can gather interest, I will happily put the time in and leverage my contacts to make it happen for the group.

If it is the success it could and should be, participants will want to return year after year.

There is nowhere else in Britain where an R35 can be legally driven to its limits.
 

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A weekday in August sounds good to me...
 
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