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Hi all,


Newby here
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To cut long story short,....
Been cosworth mad since forever, and had 2wd, and 4x4 cossies....
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after seeing the skylines at totb this year, i have to say, gtr is the way forward. Got the money for a gtr33, but really love the old styling of the gtr32, and with money i potentially save, can go into engine mods...


So,....what is life with a gtr32 like.....really,..no biased opinions please: mpg, service costs, parts to replace, rust etc etc.......oh,...and no,.." skylines are better than cossies" because thats one of the reasons im moving from ford....cant stand the rivalry between marques...

anyways...

thanks muchly

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got a suprise going from gts to gtr fuel wise, seems to use quite a bit but due to the blistering speed i find im not ragging it so much, mainly as my neck is begining to hurt lol.
has more rust than my r33 gts did but nowhere near what a car a few years old will have over here.
servicing not too bad if you do it yourself (like me lol) repairs on the other hand i would think quite expensive due to complexity of car.
hope this helps and this is only my opinion, other people may think different.
 

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I used my R32 GTR everyday for the first year, had no problems, wasn't stressful using it etc.

Fuel isn't great, but I'd guess not a lot worse than the cossies, I get 22-23MPG average, (though it seems to use more on the motorway than around town!).
Servicing isn't too bad, probably not a lot worse than the cossie, (though never having had a cossie thats just a guess).
Parts are expensive, although I've had a few surprises when things have come through and been really cheap but thats rare.
The only rust on mine was around the strut towers in the engine bay, but it was easy to get rid of, watch for the rear arches too, they're a weak point, though mine are rust free! :)

Make sure you buy a good one, if you go for a cheap one it's very likely to have been badly maintained, and as parts are expensive it'll end up costing you more in the long run.

Things to look out for are, front suspension top arms, rear track rods and track rod ends, they're what I've found to be weak points, I'm sure others will tell you of more.

Basically, an R32 GTR can be a sensible everyday car, they can be very normal to drive, not too uneconomical, keep it well maintained and you'll have a lot of fun, trouble free driving. :D

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I bought my GTR for 5 reasons really over my modified 200sx

1. Looks
2. Sound
3. 4WD
4. Easily tunable to 5-600 bhp
5. It was cheaper to achieve 5-600 bhp from the GTR than 400-450 from the 200.

I have owned my GTR for approx 6 months and it still makes me smile evey time I drive it. It will be coming off the road over the winter for fitment of the 500- 600 bhp components and some changes for track use.
 

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I had 2 4x4 Cosworths before taking the step to a R32 GTR. They were both running approx 400bhp, but to say I was underwhelmed would be an understatement. The R32 was standard back then, so felt dog slow compared to the Cos, as it weighed a good deal more, but once it was tuned to a comparable 410bhp, there was no match at all. The Skyline handled better, rode better, had bags more torque, sounded gorgeous and was about equal in the running costs.

Remember to bare in mind that some of the first R32's will be well over 15 years old, meaning you will have your hands in your pockets if you buy one with limited, or no, UK history. There are some really good Skyline specialists out there that won't charge am arm or leg for servicing/tuning too.

Good luck and welcome to the forum.
 

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No comparison, smooth inline-6 power delivery with a relatively stronger chassis means the car will "feel" underwhelming compared to a squat-happy 4 cylinder Ford.

With that extra refinement and the technology on a GTR, you will always need to spend more and maintain the car more.

As for engine mods, well if you are trying to push 400-500 BHP into a 15 year old RB26DETT, then don't say stuff like "jap cars cost so much to fix, it dont cost dat much with a cossy" when something goes wrong.

Also, comparing a GTR to another car on straightline acceleration means you are only looking into 1/3rd of the GTR's attributes as a road car.

Comparing a damn Ford sierra to a GTR is insulting all together and this is the cause of the so called rivally, Nissan has the 200sx if you want a Nissan equivalent.
 

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oh for god sake,....

why is it that people have to compare,.....


i was asking what it is like to own and run a skyline in the real world.....

no need for monkies to come on this thread and make it something its not.....

to those that have....please read topic of discussion before removing the sawdust from your tiny heads....to the others,...thanks for your help....:)


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lol, if it's any help my mechanic used to own a 450bhp Cossy and said although my ~400bhp R32 wasn't as quick in a straight line it handled a lot better and felt a better/great car to drive - hope that helps a bit Carl.
 

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carlsworth said:
oh for god sake,....

why is it that people have to compare,.....


i was asking what it is like to own and run a skyline in the real world.....

no need for monkies to come on this thread and make it something its not.....

to those that have....please read topic of discussion before removing the sawdust from your tiny heads....to the others,...thanks for your help....:)


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Hello again...

Well I think it was you who started the comparison as you introduced yourself and made it clear you was from a cosworth background and wanted to know as much about the skyline under the context of how relative it is to a ford.

Every month there is always a new member who puts up a thread that asks the same questions and conclude with the same comments.

- "ow does it compare to me stage 3 cossy???#'@@@/"

- "Is is cheap to fix like me cossy?"

- "Nah, you're all biased if you think the Skyline is a better car"

Then these members vanish back to rsoc or passionford.
 

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Don't forget how old 32's are now when buying...

Things to look out for when buying are....

Worn suspension bushes - esp front upper wishbones, rear lower shock mounts, rear diff mounts.

Repaired accident damage - common on the cheaper imports.

Split CV boots - 8 times £30 to £40 each.

Try and buy one with uprated brakes - however standard 32 brakes are quite often improved no end with a set of caliper repair kits.

Scratched front windows - the pads on the outer trim fall off or trap dirt.

Rust in rear arches.

Dented and crushed sills especially around jacking points. Seems like Nissan made them out of tin foil.

There is enough Skylines in UK now for their to be a reasonable turnover of secondhand parts knocking around now so they do not have to be as expensive as you'd think, especially if you can turn a spanner ot two.
There aren't really that complex once you have a copy of the work shop manual.
 

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carlsworth said:
no need for monkies to come on this thread and make it something its not.....

to those that have....please read topic of discussion before removing the sawdust from your tiny heads....

Wow. How to win friends and influence people with your second post.

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wanted to know as much about the skyline under the context of how relative it is to a ford.

what....
please read where its says..."please compare cossie to skyline"....
i said, the complete opposite,...i wanted to know what the SKYLINE is like to own and a daily car.....end of...

Wow. How to win friends and influence people with your second post.

so owning a skyline is about making friends and going to skyline meets where peeps lick each others rim,...i dont think so, and wether you or anyone wants to give advice or not, i aint here to rim anyone....


i said in my very first post, i dont want people going on about how a skyline is better than a cossie,....
is it not enough that i want to jump the ford ship and change to skyline...:thumbsup: :clap:

look,....im not here to make enemies, but will people please read a post before reading the topic heading and adding their piece.....

really,..i despise the rivalry between marques, and cant see why people cant just along get along no matter what car they have...
a mate of mine has no interest in cosworths, evo's, skylines,.....but loves the mk3 escorts,...he has a 1600i and an xr3 both immaculate,...now, he has got the money to buy a number of different high performance cars, but he choses not to, due to his love,.....

soooo can we please give honest opinions about the gtr.
anyways, sorry about the outburst, but it gets me soooo mad,....
like pub talk,..."you got a cossie?" yes mate.. " my mates got one thats 10 billion hp......arrrghh but thats a different rant....


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Our boys and their mates are into cars, EVOs,Rspec Hondas,Scoobys,Cosworths ETC .I have taken a few out for a demo drive and not one of them has found anything faster. I guess you have to be driven in a Skyline to know what all the hype about. :bowdown1:
 

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Owning a GTR is great fun. Yes they are greedy on the fuel but its all so worth it.
All my mates are into fast cars.They all own Evos, Escort Cosworths, Sapphire Cosworth, Supra TT, 300ZX, Celica GT4s, Impreza WRX etc. Even a Pontiac Trans-Am in the line up .:)
The Skyline gets the most respect out of all the cars but we all go to meets runs and have fun regardless without any rivalry.Sort of regarded as being the `daddy` of the bunch.
Only problem I have is that some random Impreza drivers always wanting a pop at me.:rolleyes:
Ive taken a few non-believers out and they have changed their minds within seconds of the boost coming on.:clap:
 

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we all go to meets runs and have fun regardless without any rivalry.



now thats whats its all about :clap: :clap: :clap:

you can be in my gang...lmao..
so, there been over 250 views and no one has another comments....fair do's...


so, the general opinion is that they are hard on fuel, but well worth the rewarding smiles you get in one,...
also, cars are pretty good parts and service wise if you look after them,,,..

smashing,...thanks for the comments.....
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Ill join LOL!
Definately agree there should be no rivalry between owners.
Another thing I love about owning the Skyline is the respect between owners. Usually a wave or flash of aknowledgement.:)
Coming from a Honda background I have to say that generally in that circle the guys are generally great but there is always some sort of rivalry going on!
Had enough of all the JDM this and VTEC that lol.
Although I owned a 1997 Civic Type-R EK9 before my GTR.Loved it but found something new with Nissan.:clap:
 

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should get 20 mpg from a 400hp R32gtr normal driving the= odd squirt here n there
not had anything go wrong with mine so oil n filter changes and a quick check over for this last year
seem to be a few guys braking them so most parts seem to come up second hand if you do brake somthing
theres a vast market for performance gear thats all similar prices to what your cossie would cost to fix
R32GTR's are best :)
 

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Hi Carl

I've owned two Skylines, one rear wheel drive and largely standard and my current one a GTR which runs at about 400bhp. To be honest the running costs are very similar. I recently did a full break down including a mods, insurance, petrol, the lot. Worked out at 75 per mile which I didn't find too bad at all. R32's can suffer with a bit of rust on the rear aches so I would suggest keeping an eye on the rot factor, the mechanicals are very robust and therefore don't give you too much greif. The ownership experience has been great. Combining knowledge gained from here and other boards with great advice from companies like RK Tuning, ATF Power and AP Tuning I have found it to be relatively painless. I don't pussy around in mine having done a few trackdays in it, quarter mile runs at Santa Pod and next month I'm going to the Ring. It gets used quite hard but treated properly, no different to any turbo car (warmed up, cooled down)
I would say that the car has cost exactly what I would expect a 12 year old high performance car to. The enjoyment certainly justifies the cost.
Welcome to the site.
 

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carlsworth said:
so, the general opinion is that they are hard on fuel, but well worth the rewarding smiles you get in one,...
also, cars are pretty good parts and service wise if you look after them,,,..

smashing,...thanks for the comments.....
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Depends what you're used to, we've always run thirsty cars, the worst being an American pickup with 7.5 litre engine, which at worst done 7mpg. So for us just over 20MPG is good, whereas if someone generally uses a 1.1 fiesta they'll consider 20MPG really bad.

I'm sure if you do a search on here you'll find a few threads where people have discussed their economy.

Alex B
 
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