[Dan ep3 turbo]

Seeing more and more ECUs being locked these days. Tried to read the data and have a look at the map on my HKS FCON and its locked. I doubt Abbey will give me the password to have a read of the data.

Frustrating!

It's normally the worse mappers lock there maps stupid really you don't see the top mappers do it like Ryan g etc

 

[Dan ep3 turbo]

Good mappers do not lock their maps Ryan g, pat, Paul (zen) I'm pretty sure Owen developments don't . You can not learn about mapping or other maps through looking at them.

All this to pretect there secrets is bull shit it life unfortunately. If some one making a really special manifold,plenum,cams etc it gets copied they can't lock them so mappers shouldn't lock their maps.

I would never use any one who would lock the map once finished.

Perhaps the big boys like svm and Lichfield might do on there big special builds but I think that should be it

 

[Dan ep3 turbo]

that wont work everyone will claim theirs is a special build.

Locking a map is absolutely fine as long as the tuner takes responsibility for his map .Then if someone wants it unlocked to change the map thats fine as well but as soon as its unlocked responsibility moves to the new mapper.

Do you think if the map is locked the mapper will take responsibility they allways try to pass it on to something else to many variables. Someone can only be 100% sure the map is safe when the car is there at that exact time unless it has closed loop knock control with lambda trip

 

[Dan ep3 turbo]

I didnt say the tuner would take responsibility I just said if he locked it I would expect him to.

I've even spoke to some mappers and they were trying to get out of a failure befor They even mapped it gave that one a massive miss. That's why I like the syvecs so much with lean lamda trip closed loop knock fuel pressure trips oil pressure trips and it reacts so fast to issue I personally think you shouldn't have issues

 

[Dan ep3 turbo]

Odd that this has popped up, recently had this myself where I had a car mapped, had it dyno'd 3 days later at a local car club dyno day to find it had dropped 100bhp. Operator said the timing was out. Went to connect to the ecu to find it's password protected. Call the company and they say it has to come back to them which is over 200 miles from where I live so not ideal.
I ask for the password for the ecu in the car to be told no.

So now I'm looking at paying for a full remap again from scratch with another tuner that won't lock it.

Personally don't think ecu's should ever be locked. The mapper normally saves the file that they put on there so if anyone messes with it they can show it wasn't what they installed anyway.

Who mapped your car?