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Being a person who only buys state of the art - operated my own technology businesses for 33 years - I decided to change the families mobiles recently.

After very considerable research I just purchased 4 HTC Hero phones on the 3 Mobile Network.

These are to phones what the R35 is to cars :)

For a start it runs the new Google Android operating system which makes the iPhone look medieval.

Because Android is open source, there are already thousands of free apps to download including some amazing ones.

My eldest son just downloaded a metal detector for example :)

I downloaded an accelerometer and altitude reporter which works with the built in GPS. By this time next year there wil be tens of thousands of free apps as well as really powerful commercial ones available at a sensible price - full blown SatNav for example - many of interest to us.

Also with 3 Mobile we can make calls over the Internet Service Skype. This means it is possible to phone any landline number in the world for about 1.4p per minute directly from the handset, thereby avoiding mobile charges.

Also two people with Skype on the phone can speak phone to phone at no cost at all. I have just got some Blue-Tooth headsets which means when myself and teenage sons are out in convoy in our respective cars, we just talk to each other at no cost - like permanently open channels.

Being a technologist I intend to develop some R35 specific apps for Android at some point. If I do I will make them available here for free.

Anyway - this is an unbiased recommendation for those who like me must always have absolutely state of the art stuff.

The HTC Hero on 3 Mobile is an absolute total iPhone killer. I have been part of the evolution of computer, software and network technology for over three decades and have predicted many evolutions and developments - the iPhone will be a niche, expensive hobbyist novelty by this time next year.

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Nice write up, just 2 quick questions...

- Is your car Nav or non-nav?

- Will your GTR download all the phone book from the phone?
 

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Nice write up, just 2 quick questions...

- Is your car Nav or non-nav?

- Will your GTR download all the phone book from the phone?
My car is due in March 2010, but is SatNav.

The Hero automatically downloads contacts from Google accounts such as GoogleMail/Gmail and other services. My old phone is GSM so I haven't played with downloading stuff from that yet.

The Hero is a phone that is a never ending source of amazement right now with what it can do and the Android apps available.

The thing is with Android - the apps can be automatically selected, downloaded and installed at the touch of the screen - there are already just so many of them which do so many things.

A really useful feature is Google Maps which is built in. Themain Hero Screen includes a large digital clock, and weather report for wherever you are using the GPS and weather service which is always accurate and looks great.

I have Skype on my main screen so if I want to phone someone I just touch Skype and make the call at 1.3p minute or free to another phone with Skype.

The HTC Hero also has WiFi so you can connect to any WiFi HotSpot.

I thought the free apps would be quite basic but they are far from it - they are mostly really good and getting better. As well as a metal detector my son downloaded a spirit level yesterday - not much use but the graphics are amazing.

An application which is really impressive is called "Shazzam". The phone can listen to any piece of music being played on the radio, TV etc, and then, within a minute, gives you the full title ofy the song, the artists and picture of the album cover. It has never been wrong yet or failed to know a song or group.

Again - not a lot of use per se, but it shows me the latent immense power of the HTC/Android.

Also - since Android is an open source operating system developed by Google specifically for mobile phones, the operating system and chipsets can be dynamically updated so it never becomes obsolete.



This is the future.
 

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Sorry buddy but you're missing my point, please re-read my post.

I'm not asking you whether the phone downloads anything, but whether this phone will sync fully with the R35.

Many GTR owners, including myself have discussed the GTR and many phones inability to download a full address book into the car's memory.

Whilst I appreciate your time reviewing this new phone, please bear in mind that this is a GTR forum and writing about this phone here with no relevance to the GTR is a touch out of place!

What is very relevant to many GTR owners is how this (or any phone) performs with the GTR, especially with regards the address book issue.
 

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Sorry buddy but you're missing my point, please re-read my post.

I'm not asking you whether the phone downloads anything, but whether this phone will sync fully with the R35.

Many GTR owners, including myself have discussed the GTR and many phones inability to download a full address book into the car's memory.

Whilst I appreciate your time reviewing this new phone, please bear in mind that this is a GTR forum and writing about this phone here with no relevance to the GTR is a touch out of place!

What is very relevant to many GTR owners is how this (or any phone) performs with the GTR, especially with regards the address book issue.
I have no idea whether it will sync to the R35 until I get mine.

It seems to sync with everything else.

Yes I know this is an R35 forum, but mobile communication is fundamental to most of us these days, and I thought some would appreciate an update on the technology - especially those thinking of buying an iPhone.

Also - as I mentioned I may develop some R35 apps for Android myself, so that would be directly relevant. What I am saying is - if there is a genuine need for an app such as the one you mentioned, I might make it available. Of course until I get my car, there is not much I can do.
 

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Im in the market for an R35 but i just hope i can retain the ability to communicate with people face to face.
 

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Being a person who only buys state of the art - operated my own technology businesses for 33 years - I decided to change the families mobiles recently.

After very considerable research I just purchased 4 HTC Hero phones on the 3 Mobile Network.
:D Are you sure? From my own experience phones from HTC plus the network 3 usuall result in disaster and frustration!


My eldest son just downloaded a metal detector for example :)
Am not sure that'll find burried treasure ;)


The HTC Hero on 3 Mobile is an absolute total iPhone killer. I have been part of the evolution of computer, software and network technology for over three decades and have predicted many evolutions and developments - the iPhone will be a niche, expensive hobbyist novelty by this time next year.

Adrian.
I admire your confidence Adrian but I'm afraid HTC and Android completely miss the thing that makes the iPhone fly off the shelves - desirability. Apple produce aspirational products that people want to buy, are prepared to pay over the odds for just to have one.

Ask 10 people on the street what they want as their next phone and I reckon 9 will say iPhone - they won't know why they want one or what they want to use it for, but they will want it.

If the iPhone is a niche novelty by next Christmas I will, on video to post on youtube, eat my hat :thumbsup:
 

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Im in the market for an R35 but i just hope i can retain the ability to communicate with people face to face.
So eloquently put through the medium of the internet, quite ironic really. ;)

But i know what u meant.
 

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So eloquently put through the medium of the internet, quite ironic really. ;)

But i know what u meant.
I had just walked to the post box and posted a hand written copy (in ink on recycled paper) sent 2nd class snail mail to the club secretary...literally only seconds before your reply.
 

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I am very close to ordering the iPhone but will certainly look into the HTC Hero, thanks for the pointer.

For what it's worth, 'Shazam' has been available for years via your mobile, by dialling 2580 (straight down the middle of the keypad) and holding the handset near the music source, reply by text so not as flash as yours. Although that is available via iPhone too!
 

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:D Are you sure? From my own experience phones from HTC plus the network 3 usuall result in disaster and frustration!




Am not sure that'll find burried treasure ;)




I admire your confidence Adrian but I'm afraid HTC and Android completely miss the thing that makes the iPhone fly off the shelves - desirability. Apple produce aspirational products that people want to buy, are prepared to pay over the odds for just to have one.

Ask 10 people on the street what they want as their next phone and I reckon 9 will say iPhone - they won't know why they want one or what they want to use it for, but they will want it.

If the iPhone is a niche novelty by next Christmas I will, on video to post on youtube, eat my hat :thumbsup:
Well of course it is all a matter of opinion - and loyalty in the case of Apple - but after 33 years in technology one gets a feel for the future, and in my opinion Android is it for mobiles.

The HTC Hero is just a first generation Android phone, but an amazingly good one - in my opinion, which is why I purchased 4 right away - one for myself and three sons.

From a desirability perspective - the HTC Hero/Android is orders of magnitude more desirable than the now previous generation iPhone.

I was in Carphone Warehouse today to buy an accessory, and the staff there were calling the Hero the "iPhone Killer".

I readily admit that lots of apps are gimics - metal detector being one - but I was using Google Maps in real time this evening and it is impressive.

Also checked out the Sat Nav app - CoPilot 8 - better than my TomTom Go 930 at first glance, and most updates including speed cameras are free.

Of course the iPhone will always have its fanatical adherents like the Mac and iPod, but I am absolutely certain that Android is the future of Mobile Communications. The HTC Hero is an awesome device no matter what HTC have done previously or not.

Also keep in Mind that Google developed Android and made it open source - last time I checked Google have a vastly greater following than the closed, proprietory, commercialised Apple.

Googe are the single reason why Android will become #1 like the search engine and almost everything else the do. Open Source always guarantees success with great apps being free instead of for a fee.

That said - yes of course this is an R35 forum but I thought some might benefit from my thoughts on Android/Hero since most have mobile phones and may be considering updating soon.

I don't sell phones, so I have no agenda other than to share my experience.

On a substantive level there will be increasingly more car and travel related apps including relevant to the R35, so if you are in the market for a new phone, Android is worthy of consideration.

I forsee the possibility of connecting to the R35 with the Hero to view the Engine Management and Mapping data. I also see no reason why the AccessPort - for example - could not be placed on the Android OS along with vastly more functionality. I am certain that Android could store the Engine Maps with the right app.

Time will tell, but there is not much I can add. That is my review - take or leave it as appropriate.

If I develop some Android apps for the R35 I wil let you know and let you have them.
 

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:D Are you sure? From my own experience phones from HTC plus the network 3 usuall result in disaster and frustration!




Am not sure that'll find burried treasure ;)




I think that metal detector app is actually an "anti-hoodie" proximity alert feature on new mobiles intended as an early warning of a knife attack?
 

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WHY is this post on a GRT forum..............

Google Maps, Co-pilot, Skype etc etc.........been using these for an age on iPhone.

Still I sure apple stand back, watch in amazement as HTC (ex owner btw) march away with market share. LOL
 

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:D Are you sure? From my own experience phones from HTC plus the network 3 usuall result in disaster and frustration!




Am not sure that'll find burried treasure ;)




I think that metal detector app is actually an "anti-hoodie" proximity alert feature on new mobiles intended as an early warning of a knife attack?
Well yes - that metal detector app is obviously a bit frivolous, but my son liked it.

There are loads of really useful apps - all free - but nothing to what there will be this time next year.

I have no previous experience with HTC stuff, but the Hero is a phenomenal piece of kit, and that is coming from someone in to technology for decades.

Look - just took some time to offer an opinion and short review - for what it's worth.

I know it is not on the R35 topic - but the HTC Hero may become more relevant than you might think - as well as Android generally. If you are buying a new mobile, why would you buy in to obsolescence when you can future proof your hand-held communications and management.

Like I said nothing more I can add. I don't own shares in HTC :)
 

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WHY is this post on a GRT forum..............

Google Maps, Co-pilot, Skype etc etc.........been using these for an age on iPhone.

Still I sure apple stand back, watch in amazement as HTC (ex owner btw) march away with market share. LOL
They may have to.

Why would anyone pay for apps when they can get any number for free?

Google are a marketing machine and open sourcesoftware drives the Internet.

Yes - again - maybe I should not have posted this thread at all - just assumed that at least some R35 owners also own mobile phones and might have some interest in the future of them. And I still intend to make some R35 apps for Android.

Back to the R35 and on topic then.
 

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This thread is gonna be a nightmare for spam in the morning. Lol

don't happen to work for google or HTC do you?

Only kidding, your certainly passionette and articulate on the matter

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Oh, and don't forget there are thousands of free apps on the iPhone which also has google maps, google earth etc included free

mook ;)
 

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You raised enough interest for me to look it up on ........google......LOL

Forget about phones and lets start planning an Isle of Man meet...........
 

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You raised enough interest for me to look it up on ........google......LOL

Forget about phones and lets start planning an Isle of Man meet...........
Definitely with you there :D

Only place in the British Isles where you can legally max out an R35 on public roads - and the mountain course will facilitate it.

If we can get the airfiield for a day then there is a whole new dimension of fun.

If there is enough interest I will see what I can do.

Would have to be after March though so I can take my new toy :D

Seriously though - the Isle of Man is a GT-R drivers utopia in every sense.
 
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