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Hi everyone

Just signed up to the forum and thought I'd say a quick hello.

Haven't got a Skyline yet, hoping to get an R34 GTR later on this year or possibly an R33 GTR if I run out of patience before I have the money saved.

I'll be upgrading from a Sapphire 4x4 Cosworth which I've owned and modified for the past 11 yrs. Has anyone made the same move? I'm not going to regret it am I :eek:

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Welcome mate ....

Have you driven a GTR before ? Quite a difference from the cossie but in a good way :D

How tuned was your Sapphire in the end ? I'd recommend at least 400 bhp upgrade if the Sapphire was at all played with ..

What things are you most worried about with the GTR over the Cossie ?
Saying will help people answer you ...

Never actually owned a cossie myself, brother did - a 3dr, mate did - an 335bhp Escort and other mates had Sapphires (2wd). Drove them loads and I believe the GTR is a better drive hence why I bought one ...

Again, welcome to the club ...
 

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Hi Boon - welcome aboard.

As for whether you regret it or not, it all depends on whether or not you get the right car ;) Don't forget that Andy Middlehurst used to be a Cosworth man, then had a sniff at the Jap stuff and never turned back.

If you ever get chance to watch the Duke Video "Nissan Skyline GT-R" DVD you'll see him say something like once he'd tried the Skyline GT-R he looked back at the Cosworths and realised just how archaic / outdated they were.

The price difference between a good R33 GT-R and a good R34 GT-R is pretty chunky, so if you're in for the long haul you may like to pick up a well-modified R33 as an uplifted platform from which to start your own modifications. Plus, although I'm an R32 man at heart, an R33 can, when modified the right way, look the absolute business! ;)





 

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Thanks for welcome driverst24

Never driven a GTR (nor any other skyline) but looking forward to it. :D

Cossie is about 330ish although never had it proven on a dyno. Rough spec is Hybrid T34.48 holding 24 psi with 803 injectors, rs500 intercooler, T34.48 hybrid turbo. Engine was rebuilt to this spec about 20,000 miles ago and is still nice and punchy. To upgrade further is silly money and then reliability becomes a big issue.

Biggest worry is the way they handle compared to a perm 4x4. I've had a few scary moments in RWD cossies. It's easy to nail the 4x4 saff out of roundabouts and through corners on the twisty roads.

I'm 99% sure that the skyline with it's clever electronics has to be *much* better, but i'm wondering how just how much road those electronics need to sort things out.

I don't want to come across as some moron who's going to be flying about everywhere, I'm not. But I do want to be sure that if I do feel the need, I'm not going to be repaid with a trip through the hedge because there wasn't enough tarmac for the vspec wizardry to help me out.

I have thought that perhaps an Evo would be a more logical move, but the Skyline is the ultimate for me.
 

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whooa.. thanks for all replies - they arrived whilst my second post.

Those R33's do look amazing - I keep changing my mind about that too. Originally, it was an R33 I wanted, but then in standard trim they look so tame compared to the R34. Those few pics certainly show whats possible though so many thanks.

How does the R33 compare to R34 in terms of handling?
 

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Most of the 33's out there have had upgraded suspensions and torque split controllers fitted.So I'm sure nothing huge in the handling side-Most of its down to the driver.
 

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boony said:
Thanks for welcome driverst24

Never driven a GTR (nor any other skyline) but looking forward to it. :D

Cossie is about 330ish although never had it proven on a dyno. Rough spec is Hybrid T34.48 holding 24 psi with 803 injectors, rs500 intercooler, T34.48 hybrid turbo. Engine was rebuilt to this spec about 20,000 miles ago and is still nice and punchy. To upgrade further is silly money and then reliability becomes a big issue.

Biggest worry is the way they handle compared to a perm 4x4. I've had a few scary moments in RWD cossies. It's easy to nail the 4x4 saff out of roundabouts and through corners on the twisty roads.

I'm 99% sure that the skyline with it's clever electronics has to be *much* better, but i'm wondering how just how much road those electronics need to sort things out.

I don't want to come across as some moron who's going to be flying about everywhere, I'm not. But I do want to be sure that if I do feel the need, I'm not going to be repaid with a trip through the hedge because there wasn't enough tarmac for the vspec wizardry to help me out.

I have thought that perhaps an Evo would be a more logical move, but the Skyline is the ultimate for me.
Nice spec on the cossie - they always go well on 330 - about max before the gearbox gives up on the 4x4...

As for the GTR .. I've only ever sat in a R34 never driven one so can't say what they are like - I'm sure someone can on here :D

I've got a R32 and it's probably more like a 3dr Cossie than any other cossie but nowhere near as tail happy.

If realibility is an issue I'd say stick to about 450 bhp max on a GTR - that's still really fast for a road car .. You can get easily get more but I daily drive mine ...:cool:

I think you'll be very happy with a drive of the R33 mate, no flames here as I stated earlier never driven a R34. R32 is a bit more of a lively drive than the R33 and can hang the tail out more.

If you don't have lots of funds after buying a R34 - defo consider the R33 - a lot cheaper to buy and then you've got a nice fund for maintenance / mods .


Defo get a drive in a GTR - I really honestly believe you will not be disappointed after the Cossie - I think it's a natural upgrade path ...
 

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Welcome!

CossyCam will be able to tell you what it feels like to move from the Cossies to the GT-Rs I'm sure. Get a TSC from Andy (R32_Combat) as it is a great mod for the R32s anyhow and you can change the GT-R cornering with it - I'm currently on 6/7 all the time now - nice :D.

Suspension is VERY important so be careful of getting one with a JDM super tight one and if you do get Aurok to revalve it (they are on the web) if possible - it makes the world of difference to how the car handles.
 

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Hi Mr Boon,

I too 'up-graded' from a Sierra Cosworth 4x4 with approx 330 bhp to a GTR34, and with my very limited mechanical / technical knowledge have noticed the following differences ....

The Sierra seemed to accelerate quicker from a standing start, presumably because it weighed significantly less than the Skyline (which was producing around 400 bhp the last time I drove it hard)

Plus I would trust the permanent four wheel drive system in the Ford if the roads were covered in snow and ice, where as the electronically controlled system in the Nissan seems to allow a slightly more 'tail happy' drive under power in the wet.

But having said all that the GTR get's far more approving glances from other road users etc, and the Cosworth is starting to look a wee bit dated.(but don't let this put anyone off who might want to buy it :D :D )

Mine's for sale too ! Classic Car. Nice white one, only 2 owners etc .......

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/Robbie733/cosworth.jpg
 

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nismo22 said:
Who owns the R33 GTR? reg number M22GTR, is it for sale?
DaveW on here owns it, and in my opinion, one of the best 33's around for looks and power.
 
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