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So I've had my 2016 GTR for about 2 months now and I've done about 1500 miles in it. Currently, car has 11k miles.

I'm having some issues regarding the transmission, and wanted to know if anyone could advise on what may be the cause.

The first is, when starting the car from cold, it doesn't shift beyond 3rd gear.
Once you stop and put it into N or M, and then back to A the car shifts as normal all the way to 6th.
It only does this after a cold start, if I were to switch the car off and then on, at the petrol station for example, it shifts fine.

The second issue; When the car is in neutral at the lights, when I shift to A, there is a slight 'jerk' if I step on the gas straight away. If I wait a second or two, it's fine.

Finally, since I've had the car, on 3 occasions, the shift lever has locked itself into P, and I had to release it by using the shift-lock release on the side.
Read somewhere that low battery may be the cause of this, however I've never had any issues with start-up. At one point, I hadn't driven the car for two weeks, and it still fired up fine.
 

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Hey, Regarding the gearbox issue this may well have fault codes and / or require an update. I'd get it to your nearest specialist or Nissan before second guessing. The slight "Jerk" pulling away I have sometimes, too. I think these cars can have a slightly random bunch of noises and behaviour at times. I would urge you to get diagnostics done though, because what you've stated all in all, doesn't seem 100% right.
 

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Hey, Regarding the gearbox issue this may well have fault codes and / or require an update. I'd get it to your nearest specialist or Nissan before second guessing. The slight "Jerk" pulling away I have sometimes, too. I think these cars can have a slightly random bunch of noises and behaviour at times. I would urge you to get diagnostics done though, because what you've stated all in all, doesn't seem 100% right.
The slight jerk can be tuned out using an ecutek dongle TCM ecu and touchpoints, these are what makes the car 'creep' i D foot off throttle, not enough creep and it will bang into gear, clear all dtcs first
 

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Where can the Ecutek dongle be purchased from and how much are they, looks like it would be a useful addition for a new owner
 

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Linney, Litchfield, ACS, JM, SVM I have 3 at moment. Anywhere really. Easy to use as well

I will miss mine loads as we are going Syvecs by the look of it
 

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The Ecutek dongle is excellent and I noticed today that GT-R Performance Limited (John/DudeRSVR) and Sokrati Speed (Dimitri) not only put 4 maps in as standard in March 2018 but also 3 custom: flames, rain and "Godzilla Fuel" - fantastic. My usual map is 700ps. Brilliant. Must take a look at the build in March in Crawley and book a service and a few more performance mods.
 

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So I've had my 2016 GTR for about 2 months now and I've done about 1500 miles in it. Currently, car has 11k miles.

I'm having some issues regarding the transmission, and wanted to know if anyone could advise on what may be the cause.

The first is, when starting the car from cold, it doesn't shift beyond 3rd gear.
Once you stop and put it into N or M, and then back to A the car shifts as normal all the way to 6th.
It only does this after a cold start, if I were to switch the car off and then on, at the petrol station for example, it shifts fine.

The second issue; When the car is in neutral at the lights, when I shift to A, there is a slight 'jerk' if I step on the gas straight away. If I wait a second or two, it's fine.

Finally, since I've had the car, on 3 occasions, the shift lever has locked itself into P, and I had to release it by using the shift-lock release on the side.
Read somewhere that low battery may be the cause of this, however I've never had any issues with start-up. At one point, I hadn't driven the car for two weeks, and it still fired up fine.
Firstly the "issue" staying in 3rd isnt an issue; It's quite normal.

On cold start up the car will keep in 3rd to maintain higher engine revs in order to warm the transmission (the trans cooler works the opposite way when cold, sending heat to the trans fluid).

Secondly I'd suggest not shifting to N when stationary. I know some do, I've never in 10 years of ownership. The previous owner may also have had the TouchPoints and Clutch Capacities set higher which leads to more aggressive clutch engagement and higher amounts of creep. As already suggested an Ecutek OBD dongle will allow you to play around with them AND do a clutch relearn which often improves transmission behaviour.

You must also remember that your car isn't an automatic slush box. It's effectively an automated manual so when you jump on the gas quickly at a standstill, the clutch will engage and how much shudder that is generated is very much related to the amount of engine torque being applied which of course is governed by your right foot. So, lift off the brake, give the car a split second to engage those clutches and away you go.

The locking Shift lever is often an issue with the shift mechanism in the interior of the car and certainly having a specialist take a look is a good idea.

None of your symptoms are terribly bad and IMHO aren't related to each other. Obviously as a new owner they all appear like a collection of signs that something catastrophic is about to happen but I'm very comfortable that that isn't the case. The GTR transmission is clunky and agricultural.
 

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Firstly the "issue" staying in 3rd isnt an issue; It's quite normal.

On cold start up the car will keep in 3rd to maintain higher engine revs in order to warm the transmission (the trans cooler works the opposite way when cold, sending heat to the trans fluid).
Really ? Mine has never done that in the 6 years I've had it.

Secondly I'd suggest not shifting to N when stationary. I know some do, I've never in 10 years of ownership.
I also do not bother putting the car in N when stationary either. It just seems like a wast of effort is the clutch will disengage when stationary I believe so there is nothing to be gained.


You must also remember that your car isn't an automatic slush box. It's effectively an automated manual so when you jump on the gas quickly at a standstill, the clutch will engage and how much shudder that is generated is very much related to the amount of engine torque being applied which of course is governed by your right foot. So, lift off the brake, give the car a split second to engage those clutches and away you go.
My shudders as well at very low speeds, normally in town driving (i.e. nose to tail traffic). I find as soon as I move forward, no matter how slowly, I often have to lift off again almost straight away because I'd end up hitting the car in front and that then causes it to judder until I press the accelerator again.

But when I first got the car it was really bad. Then I had a clutch learn and it cured it - no more juddering. Now I have a non-OEM clutch with 1 extra plate and they said it would make it a bit more jerky at low speeds
 

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If you do keep your car in gear when stationery PLEASE use the handbrake NOT the footbrake to prevent any forward movement.

Few things more irritating than sitting behind someone with their brake lights blazing into your eyes - which sadly appears to becoming the normal state these days!
 

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The third gear thing when cold is normal behavior, it is very noticeable in mine when in auto, and I try and remember to replicate it when driving in manual (which I do most of the time)

i always knock it into neutral when stationary, just force of habit now...
 

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Isn't this what "Park" was invented for? Saves heat from hot brake pads being held on the discs and saves glare for the guy behind. If stopped for more than a junction at say a longer set of lights I bang my cars in park. If you get hit up the arse and only have your foot on the foot brake you'll usually hit the car in front. I've had the feeling the car is "surging" and pushing against the clutch too, I'm assured the new map will take this away (y)
 

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That's really interesting about the 3rd gear point - mine doesn't do this and never has. Mine's a 2010 year so perhaps it's just the later cars with different software??
 

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Mine never used to sit in 3rd from cold it was either 4th or 5th.

I always kept it a very low rpm and at low mph so this was always fine.

In theory if you are warming the car up properly this shouldn't be an issue.
 

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Out of interest I've just tried the following; Car was stone cold. Started it up and kept it in auto (which I don't normally do). After about 2 minutes/800 yards from my house, hitting 40 and the car had shifted into 5th.
 

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I have had an 09 and now a 17 car,neither would/will shift into 4th in auto until about 1 mile into the journey
 

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I don't normally use Auto but did today. Cold start and light throttle and car changed up to 5th at 40. I had read previously that it's better to drive in manual when engine cold to prevent the engine labouring etc so normally do use Manual. Interestingly for same drive its returned 20mpg in Auto, whereas I'm nearer 15mpg in manual. Quite some difference....
 

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I don't normally use Auto but did today. Cold start and light throttle and car changed up to 5th at 40. I had read previously that it's better to drive in manual when engine cold to prevent the engine labouring etc so normally do use Manual. Interestingly for same drive its returned 20mpg in Auto, whereas I'm nearer 15mpg in manual. Quite some difference....
5th at 40 - same as me today then.

I think it says in the owner's manual that you should use manual when the engine is cold as it says something about the gear changes being jerky (or something like that). It also says that in Auto the gear changes are optimised for fuel efficiency over performance. It certainly changes up very quickly in Auto.
 

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So a bit of an update, I popped into a Nissan HPC on my day off and they managed to get some time to look into it.
Technician said he couldn't find any fault codes regarding the transmission and said it's normal for the car to hang in 3rd when the car is stone cold.

So after this, and also reading some of the comments on here I noticed the car changes to 4th after about 1.5miles from cold.
 

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The trouble with Nissan is they do like to talk shit at you as if you are an imbecile.

However, when you say "Once you stop and put it into N or M, and then back to A the car shifts as normal all the way to 6th.", what happens if you just flick it into M whilst driving ? Can you then just change all the way to 6th ?

You could just drive it in M when cold and once warmed up, pop it back into A if you prefer driving it an Auto.
 
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